Tech billionaire Elon Musk has come under fire after making back-to-back hand gestures resembling the Nazi salute during a speech celebrating the presidential inauguration of Donald Trump https://aje.io/uggc7j
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@aljazeera.com you guys! Know what it was 😒 and yet you guys want to sit on the fence about it all, stop being scared and say it for it was. No need to be shy about it. Most intelligent human beings on this planet know what he did and what he continues to do.
Lotta people in these comments showing they don’t understand why news media says stuff like “allegedly” when referring to people who are arrested. You can’t say something definitive sometimes because of libel laws. They’re not soft-pedaling it.
At what point does "just commenting" become colluding?
This post is so anodyne that we could be mistaken for thinking giving a Nazi salute in full view of the whole world is normal
Why is no-one in the mainstream media outraged?
🤔 Musk is a child of Apartheid wealth.
Musk didn't invent Tesla, he bought it.
Musk didn't invent Spacex, he bought it.
Musk didn't invent Starlink, he bought it.
Musk didn't invent "X," he bought it.
Musk didn't invent Trump, he bought him.
It didn’t resemble the salute. It was the Nazi salute. You guys are usually not afraid to be honest. Please don’t join the rest of our broken, cowardly media.
He did it twice. Not once but he turned around and did it again. Of course he’ll deny it, call people crazy for saying it was a nazi salute but we know what we saw and based off what he’s said and done in the past, we know who he is.
Stop fucking gaslighting us. It’s not “resembling” anything; it IS a Nazi salute. Fucking hell! The world press is a bunch of spineless, bootlicking asshats!
It is exactly what it looks like. Elon is detail oriented - this isn’t a mistake, an oversight, a gesture or a Roman salute. He did it multiple times and even put a lil ummmf on it.
I love the fence sitting. Heavens, the day of journalistic courage is truly dead and gone. Appeasement means nothing for this party. They will attack you on a whim for lesser reasons. May as well earn the scorn.
"And then he journeyed to Pennsylvania where he spent a month and a half campaigning for me and he's a popular guy.
"He knows those computers better than anybody. All those computers, those vote-counting computers, and we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide."
Well... US citizens allowed these people to take gvt without real resistance. Why should a foreign news organisation get themselves sued to make you happy?
Three times it seems, although in the other speech he had his back turned to the audience (like the second time in the most talked about clip), so may try and claim it was something else!
So they should expose themselves to litigation to make you happy? While US citizens let these same Nazis waltz into gvt? Let's not unload on Aljazeera to shift blame.
I can be mad at two things at once - both the Nazis being elected again, *and* the cowards appeasing them.
News are not standing up to any principals anymore, and I'm tired of the line of "appropriate behaviour" being pushed towards the extreme so hard it's almost back at the ovens already.
Very true. But aim at the right targets. While CNN outright edited out the salute, Aljazeera has been consistently calling out the US and others. US citizens, on the other hand, let the fascists into gvt. And one headline isn't exactly going to change matters at this point.
Oh and as much as we like a good, righteous fury, emotional responses aren't a good substitute for cold, rational strategizing. Which is what is needed if US citizens are going to resist... Which is the only thing that can make a difference...
I think you are right, that cold strategizing is the *best* way to solve this crisis of, well. Basic human decency.
But the other way works too, has since French revolution, to Tsar's Russia, to now Syria. But that is the worst, and last way to make change, when other options are prevented.
The US news media will never call it what us was, a NAZI salute. Most of American media is now part of Trumps cult. They are totally afraid to say the truth when it comes to one of his members. I am surprised this news outlet was afraid of calling as is.
Voting is a right and an obligation to protect your country from harm. Compulsory voting should be normalised, as in you are required to turn up, whether you place a vote on any ballot or not is your choice, but turning up should be a minimum. You reap what you sow.
In fairness (or actually not) their voting system is worse than ours in the UK, so I imagine and hope that the majority of Americans didn’t vote for this.
63.9% of eligible voters voted out of approximately 244 million voters, so about 156 million, 76.9 million voted for Trump, so about 31.5% of eligible voters voted for Trump. That 36% of voters that didn’t vote at all is the big issue.
…plus of course the electoral college system which was designed to stop states with the biggest populations having an influence on elections which is why the vote only really matters in a handful of states.
I think your 49.9% statistic comes from the total of people who actually voted, mine came from the vote compared to total eligible voters, so the significant number of people who didn’t vote is included.
From 9:09 gives more context. I don’t know what he’s saying, but he doesn’t mention computers. Not saying he wasn’t intimating foul play, but it’s very vague.
Because they are unskilled mafia. They use the vague language, but also on camera practically admit stuff because of dementia. There should be an investigation on if musk visited any election machines or touched any of the hardware prior to the election.
Also this from trump
"And then he journeyed to Pennsylvania where he spent a month and a half campaigning for me and he's a popular guy.
"He knows those computers better than anybody. All those computers, those vote-counting computers, and we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide."
If he had painted a dick on his forehead the fact would be that he showed a dick on his forehead to eight billion people, and when he made a nazi salute in front of live cameras the fact is evident. If it's an accusation, then what's the defense? He's a very special boy and didn't really mean it?
Show the full motion this is FAKE news, he had his hand on his heart then extended it to say love you all. Check the video or does that not fit the narrative?
They don't really have a choice. They're legally liable for what they print, and claiming with certainty that this is the nazi salute – even if they know as well as we do that it is – can and will hit them hard.
At least they use the term "nazi salute", not just "awkward hand gesture".
Elon Musk's gesture reminiscent of a Nazi salute has rekindled the chilling aspirations of those who wish to see horrors akin to the Holocaust repeated. This serves as yet another miscalculation by my Jewish friends who backed Trump.
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That's what he did!
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This country is irredeemable so don't be surprised when this becomes a non-story in a week.
This post is so anodyne that we could be mistaken for thinking giving a Nazi salute in full view of the whole world is normal
Why is no-one in the mainstream media outraged?
Musk didn't invent Tesla, he bought it.
Musk didn't invent Spacex, he bought it.
Musk didn't invent Starlink, he bought it.
Musk didn't invent "X," he bought it.
Musk didn't invent Trump, he bought him.
The reality is that now we see the real Trump, Musk and co.
"He knows those computers better than anybody. All those computers, those vote-counting computers, and we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide."
Stop fucking gaslighting us.
Stop coddling Nazis, and get your rope
He slapped his chest and threw it out there as hard as he could, when did every news agency lose their guts?
https://bsky.app/profile/january.6.was.a.failedcoup.com/post/3lg7jfc7zsc2c
Everyone saw it
He's not hiding it.
- also Céline did it better imo
It's a Nazi salute. Everyone knows it's a Nazi salute. Elon knows it's a Nazi salute. YOU know it's a Nazi salute.
You're not making any friends with this "let's be coy about it". You just end up being stupid *and* a Nazi sympathizer.
News are not standing up to any principals anymore, and I'm tired of the line of "appropriate behaviour" being pushed towards the extreme so hard it's almost back at the ovens already.
But the other way works too, has since French revolution, to Tsar's Russia, to now Syria. But that is the worst, and last way to make change, when other options are prevented.
I was way more volatile when commenting on CNN, incidentally :P
That's a statement.
That's what majority of Americans want...
Voting is a right and an obligation to protect your country from harm. Compulsory voting should be normalised, as in you are required to turn up, whether you place a vote on any ballot or not is your choice, but turning up should be a minimum. You reap what you sow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnfKnF85_B8. From 9:23 talks about musk ensuring a win with his rocket science stuff and computers.
"And then he journeyed to Pennsylvania where he spent a month and a half campaigning for me and he's a popular guy.
"He knows those computers better than anybody. All those computers, those vote-counting computers, and we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide."
More than ever
The imagination could and has run wild with this, maybe its a dance move in celebration.
At least they use the term "nazi salute", not just "awkward hand gesture".
That 100000% is a Nazi salute.