Maybe it wasn’t good politics to portray Trump as a threat to democracy but it was accurate. - ThreadSky

donmoyn.bsky.social • 84 days ago

Maybe it wasn’t good politics to portray Trump as a threat to democracy but it was accurate.

“If you want to assemble the infrastructure of an authoritarian government, this is how you do it.”
www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc... Republican Senators are now a final bulwark against tyranny, after failing to uphold their oath by removing a corrupt demagogue from power & banning him from office

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malakim2099.bsky.social•84 days ago

I think the bad politics comes in when you try to "work" with the threat to democracy after all the braying about how big a threat it is.

markswitzer.bsky.social•83 days ago

I don't know why the truth is bad politics.

It seems obvious that he's bad for the country, it's people, the world etc.

I realize he appeals to Christian nationalists,and billionaires, and that he will deliver policy beneficial to those audiences.

celerycaraway.bsky.social•84 days ago

It WAS good politics-- Harris started strong & got millions of Americans looking up #Project2025, seeing the stakes. Then fancy DCCC & DSCC consultants said Dems should pivot to Hope & Change...
>>when she could've kept Hitting 'Em Where It Hurts
https://bsky.app/profile/rachelbitecofer.bsky.social/post/3lc4j7nc2pc2k

arthuragain.bsky.social•83 days ago

It wasn't good politics to portray Trump as a threat to democracy - and then treat him as if he wasn't.

If your words say one thing and your actions another, people won't believe you.

dannyjbixby.bsky.social•84 days ago

I know we (Dems, liberals, progressives, etc) care about accuracy, but the American people do not. We need to care more about effectiveness. While still being true to our values.

drbirdeye.bsky.social•84 days ago

Now what?

thatbrutus.bsky.social•84 days ago

I think it's only really bad politics because it never really left the 'just words' stages of stuff.

thatbrutus.bsky.social•84 days ago

Like between the fact there was more political maneuvering from Sander's Nevada win than most of what Trump has done so far, *and* that Biden sat down with the guy he was calling a fascist a few months before hand, does a lot make more casual voters think that maybe Biden was just trash talking

thatbrutus.bsky.social•84 days ago

Hell, it's created some serious doubts about how serious Biden (and the Dems as a whole) was in this moderately informed voter's mind...

ewbrown.bsky.social•83 days ago

Isn't it his duty to sit down with the incoming president elect?

ericfoltz.bsky.social•84 days ago

Trump may not have found his, "Roy Cohn," but he sure seems to have found his, Heinrich Muller.

mlamb.bsky.social•84 days ago

It would be foolish and unwise for the Senate to give away their power to Trump.

ljamesnc.bsky.social•84 days ago

If anything, the trump years have shown — there’s no place for facts in U.S. politics.

digiphile.bsky.social•84 days ago

Unsure. The messenger was so flawed — Biden was & remains unable to clearly articulate the danger & use the bully pulpit to uphold his “duty to warn”, & conflated D policies.

Harris was shockingly circumspect. Didn’t focus on facts the indictments showed & cut through noise of propaganda & lies.

citizenkryptik.bsky.social•84 days ago

Biden did things like have a huge splashy public address where he clearly articulated the threat of the GOP's fascism. Networks not only refused to carry it, but the next day the media screamed that *BIDEN* was fascist for red lights & honor guards.

Maybe the media is the problem, not the messenger

digiphile.bsky.social•84 days ago

I remember. He erred in staging, conflation of Democratic policies with democracy, & failed to keep coming back to get that right.

Messenger & news media are both deeply flawed.

bombaycrone.bsky.social•84 days ago

The Republicans that are left in the Senate and House will acquiesce. I don't think they care anymore.

foafoaf.bsky.social•84 days ago

"Maybe it wasn't good politics" is a Democratic party brain worm meant to deceive you. The two-party fallacy has you in its clutches. They are both slight variations on the same team. When Ds win, they FAIL to codify what we all want (abortion, healthcare), and when they lose they always punch left.

psgarak.bsky.social•84 days ago

Or, politics is an ongoing system with no "end" or magic buttons to fix things, and the American people are too spoiled to understand our appreciate incremental progress, which takes steps forward and backward over time.
As a result they reject the truth and embrace comfortable lies.

memberguest.bsky.social•84 days ago

yeah maybe it's just that a majority of people voted for a bad thing this time

foafoaf.bsky.social•84 days ago

Yes, this is the standard Liberal line. Wait longer, trust the system, no magics please, etc. These are called "thought-stopping" phrases to enforce the status quo. Ds do nothing, Rs move right. So here we are on the brink of authoritarian dictatorship and you're handcuffed to the plain and simple.

ahuihou.org•84 days ago

Dems portrayed Orange Failure as a threat? I don’t recall that at all. If ‘portrayed’ is a euphemism for ‘attack’, Dems needed to attack and failed to do so.

Dump completely bullied Harris and I don’t remember Dems coming close to inconveniencing the Fat Slob much less portraying him as a threat.

evilchuckster.bsky.social•83 days ago

And now he’s your democratically elected President. Live with it!

aminhnow.bsky.social•84 days ago

The No Accountability Project

theonlylorax.bsky.social•84 days ago

But we were told that the threat was overblown, TDS, not good for the campaign to bring up, etc. Granted, calling DJT Hitler wasn't wise, even if true, and honestly, without the support of Republicans, it wasn't breaking through.

we-are-toast.bsky.social•84 days ago

Then we are faced with the fact that many in the voting public simply "can't handle the truth". Dems need to wake up to this. Fighting lies with truth isn't going to work with such an extremely uninformed public. To get back our democracy we must fight with whatever weapons work.

snowmein.bsky.social•84 days ago

I think we never tied the threat to the voters’ individual lives. It was too diffused and abstract.

dubbodt.bsky.social•82 days ago

A lot of republicans voters hate democracy and want a king.

Others are brain-dead from TV, Newspapers, and Radio's apocalyptic predictions that they think "it will be fine" while Covid and J6 are "no big deal."

Accept that republicans hold contradictory thoughts in their head and roll with it.

stevestarr.bsky.social•84 days ago

Addendum: Since we are at a stage where (apparently) facts either don't matter or people don't care, language is a weapon of mass destruction.

stevestarr.bsky.social•84 days ago

Saying things that upset a wide swath of people can be very hazardous to your electoral success.

jrpc.bsky.social•84 days ago

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dennis-see-sea.bsky.social•84 days ago

I think a problem was 85% of the "thought leaders" portraying Trump as a threat to democracy would, in order to maintain their ideological purity, unfailingly preface it by saying,"Of course, Harris is a flawed candidate, terrible communicator, & ordinarily I would never vote for her, but I'm gonna

dennis-see-sea.bsky.social•84 days ago

force myself to choose the lesser of 2 evils." This was just "building a permission structure" for Dems to stay home and whatever imaginary Never Trump-er/Haley voter to justify making the same reckless choice they made in 2016. Great sales pitch, folks! How can I donate to your Substack or YouTube

dennis-see-sea.bsky.social•84 days ago

channel? A well meaning dope like Michael Moore was showing up on any available cable outlet literally saying "I could never in good conscience say to any Muslim American they should vote for Kamala, but don't worry, us whites are going to turn out extra strong and make up for any lost votes!" Even

dennis-see-sea.bsky.social•84 days ago

a pundit I usually like, Mehdi Hasan , Mr. Win Every Argument, was reduced to hiding behind such CYOA brand management piffle as, "I can't tell anyone how to vote, I can only lay out the facts." Nailed it, Mehdi! Best to save the caustic indignation for your next kayfabe battle with Piers Morgan.

nickforbrains.bsky.social•83 days ago

The Senate will knuckle under

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