This legal fiction is to shield Musk from any meaningful accountability. He is operating his own organization within the federal government, loyal to him not Trump, and has amassed unprecedented control of federal data. But just an advisor! - ThreadSky

donmoyn.bsky.social • 5 days ago

This legal fiction is to shield Musk from any meaningful accountability. He is operating his own organization within the federal government, loyal to him not Trump, and has amassed unprecedented control of federal data. But just an advisor!

Reposted from Kyle Cheney

NEWSY: The White House confirms tonight that Elon Musk is NOT the administrator of DOGE and is not even technically part of it.

He's a "senior adviser to the president" like Anita Dunn, they say. storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.us...

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humannoyed.bsky.social•5 days ago

Take him out

stoutpotentials.bsky.social•5 days ago

So “advisors” can force themselves into gov’t departments, steal our data and fire people?

Musk is Trump’s henchman.

robbinsa.me•4 days ago

is it legal fiction or is it just an outright lie

ingemarknows.bsky.social•5 days ago

janbeecher.bsky.social•4 days ago

He has too many tracks for this to hold up in traffic court.

janbeecher.bsky.social•4 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/ericcolumbus.bsky.social/post/3lii4cj3alk2g

greenhombre.bsky.social•5 days ago

San Francisco Tesla protest today.

kerravon.bsky.social•4 days ago

Pictured: just an advisor.

josalo.bsky.social•5 days ago

“You must be mistaken. My arrangement was with a man called Tyrannus.”

elihuroberts.bsky.social•5 days ago

It’s a tell that they keep trying to cover their tracks despite all the public bluster and bravado about how all powerful they are. Bullies are cowards and, as history shows, this won’t end well for them.

adrianwashere.bsky.social•4 days ago

Listening to advisors is optional!

andyfraser.bsky.social•4 days ago

💯

crabofdoom.bsky.social•4 days ago

If he's "nothing but an advisor", then he's the biggest thief in US history. If anyone with the power gave a shit, advisor-only seems *worse* than being the admin of a fake 'department', bc why tf has he been allowed into all the places he has, if he's not even any manner of an official?

mlhild.bsky.social•5 days ago

They will say whatever meets their needs at the moment. I hope this ends up backfiring on them.

sparky2024.bsky.social•5 days ago

I think he should be sued for the amount of money it costs to put the agencies he destroyed back together. Afterwards I hope he enjoys sleeping under a federal highway overpass

katog617.bsky.social•4 days ago

…In South Africa!

saneenglish.bsky.social•5 days ago

As a lawyer, I can't see that working. He's tweeting all day long about how he's personally shutting shit down.

nickhare.bsky.social•4 days ago

Didn't he hire the team, which would imply authority over the team.

olliemcclellan.bsky.social•4 days ago

How would you feel about having to make that argument in front of an Article III judge?

saneenglish.bsky.social•4 days ago

Judges tend to like facts so not great

olliemcclellan.bsky.social•4 days ago

Do they prefer alternative facts or inconvenient facts?

poouliinhanawi.bsky.social•4 days ago

Yes. The probationary firings came from OPM and were carried out by the Departments technically. And all of the "DOGE" employees are embedded within individual departments to shield them. It's really the Cabinet secretaries that seem like they will have to eat some of the consequences.

lbrass3.bsky.social•4 days ago

He just gets coffee. 😒

swiffy.bsky.social•5 days ago

Then the government should be happy to consent to an injunction saying that no action whatsoever within government will be taken on authority of Musk or anyone under him and will only be taken when directed and approved by someone in the legitimate chain of command

poouliinhanawi.bsky.social•4 days ago

They are doing that. The Secretaries of the various departments are complicit and directing the actions officially.

occultsoup.bsky.social•5 days ago

This👆At bare minimum.

cave-malum.bsky.social•4 days ago

Who IS the DOGE administrator?

georgecor.bsky.social•4 days ago

Doesn't that deprive him of the (flawed) defense that the President can do anything he wants? If so, it should be easier to prosecute Musk and his people (Musk-o-vites?), although we probably have to rely on states to do so. Never thought I'd cheer for States Rights!

mtb-gal.bsky.social•5 days ago

How is not a EVERY single man, woman and child not screaming at the top of their lungs about the richest tech bro in THE WORLD having access to *EVERYONE’S* personal information through the IRS and SS?! The silence is absolutely deafening!! I just don’t f*cking get it.

funkdr.bsky.social•4 days ago

I assume and hope that the phones don’t stop ringing all day tomorrow in congressional offices.. both in DC and district/ state offices

artiststeve.bsky.social•4 days ago

The theory is interesting but the real issue is how the fuck to stop him. By the time civilized society has the answer it will be too late

choconibbles.bsky.social•4 days ago

You mean the department named after his crypto?

schroedinger.bsky.social•5 days ago

Insane that Chutkan is taking the "you have to wait for him to actually post everyone's info online or personally come punch you in the face before I can do anything" stance on the state lawsuit.

hoobajoob.bsky.social•5 days ago

that’s the very definition of harm, nobody can get a tro without it

schroedinger.bsky.social•5 days ago

They yanked $80 million out of an NYC bank account, that's an obvious harm.

hoobajoob.bsky.social•5 days ago

true, but new york isn't one of the states that filed this case

prasad.bsky.social•4 days ago

then enjoin him to the fullest extent possible

he can advise Trump but no one else

he has no need to access any of the data or the people involved

christinevn-hfe.bsky.social•4 days ago

What is Thiel in all of this?

grumpyfinfan.bsky.social•4 days ago

Lying Nazi scum. Period. Karma is a fickle bitch.

occultsoup.bsky.social•5 days ago

As a layperson, I’m trying to understand how this protects him. If they’re saying he doesn’t have the authority, but he’s definitely doing it (DOGE goons expressly threatening gov employees with ‘calling Elon’, etc), doesn’t this ultimately hang him out to dry?

crabbycoach.bsky.social•4 days ago

It's almost as if the "deep state" the Republikkkans were so afraid of is real.

ladybree.bsky.social•4 days ago

Then I expect agencies to stop providing access…

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