This rather helpfully makes my point about disordered discourse. www.theguardian.com/world/live/2... - ThreadSky

eliothiggins.bsky.social • 62 days ago

This rather helpfully makes my point about disordered discourse.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/mar/01/live-european-leaders-rally-behind-zelenskyy-after-trump-vance-clash-updates?CMP=share_btn_url&page=with%3Ablock-67c35c298f089e8672a053ef#block-67c35c298f089e8672a053ef

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ei795.bsky.social•62 days ago

Well avtually i advised Mr Zelensky telepathically to have a go and see how Trump would handle criticism. Thats now clear. The self nominated worlds top negotiator will have mr zelensky back.

wemdmj.bsky.social•62 days ago

Like the Tories in the UK there will come a time when Trump’s Republicans go beyond public acceptance and their lunacy becomes fully exposed. We are surely very close to that now. At that time they will be consigned to oblivion and rightly so.

noughtytaughty.bsky.social•62 days ago

True. The right's drunk on success & deaf to evidence - eg the UK's July election - that the masses want not hard right policy but better lives - or at least more equitably-shared pain. The current public mood is therefore anti-incumbent (not pro-right) and the goal is redistribution (not reaction).

rosemmason.bsky.social•62 days ago

Interesting that the people in this conference call knew ahead of time that there wd be a "confrontation" against which Zelens'kyy would have to "stand strong."
Also note that the people involved, esp. V. Nuland and A. Vindman, play regular roles as bogeypeople in the Right's conspiracy theories.

eliothiggins.bsky.social•62 days ago

It feeds into the discourse, reinforcing the beliefs people participating in it already hold.

rosemmason.bsky.social•62 days ago

Genau.

freeintheforest.bsky.social•62 days ago

I had neighbors who said they saw & spoke with ghosts regularly, showed me pics they thought were lights of aliens or "spirit orbs" & thought a noise behind their garden must be sasquatch ...these people can convinced of anything & they vote

(there's even a Rescue Mediums episode about this couple)

cdca.bsky.social•62 days ago

Imagine thinking the Democrats would actually do something.

jmclaren.bsky.social•62 days ago

Makes sense. It’s not like Zelenskyy would have had any inkling he was walking into a potential stitch-up and he’s famously a pushover with no experience at all dealing with mafioso type characters masquerading as statesmen.

bp345.bsky.social•62 days ago

little fevered brains drunk on the hate in their hearts

miladylilburn.bsky.social•62 days ago

Lara Trump interfering again?

axeln.bsky.social•62 days ago

„extremely online“ is an euphemism for „believe anything that scrolls by and fits my preconception“. And those MAGAs fit right in.

sjmaskell.bsky.social•62 days ago

Is it dawning on him that he made a tit of himself? 🤔

andwrighting.bsky.social•62 days ago

When speculation becomes fact… 😬

pwnallthethings.bsky.social•62 days ago

not that anyone cares but it is genuinely very funny to me how anyone with half a brain cell sees those names together and thinks "yes those four on a phone call with Zelensky in person" and not "this is rightwing slop and four names they vaguely remember they hate"

pwnallthethings.bsky.social•62 days ago

and after that he had a phone call with (points at fingers) um, hilary clinton, hunter biden, (spins the wheel of rightwing fantasy hate), the trans person who was in the bud light commercial, and (spins it again) the deceased former president of Venezuela

aneshajoy.bsky.social•62 days ago

While eating pizza slices from you know where

janus303.bsky.social•62 days ago

and Loretta Lynch for good measure

ethicking.com•62 days ago

Or maybe it was Loretta Lynn or Jane Lynch, the fact checker got fired last week

amb-markab.bsky.social•62 days ago

I hear Fauci was on. And Taylor Lorentz! And Taylor Swift!

dougielaing.bsky.social•62 days ago

I am a casual follower of American politics (SNL and John Oliver) and in don't really recognize any of those names.

However, the suggestion that Zelensky, after leading his country through 3 years of war, had to be TOLD to be strong immediately stinks of bullshit.

brosemitesam.bsky.social•62 days ago

"Victoria Nuland promised her famous cookies if he didn't sign the deal"

all-a-mort.bsky.social•62 days ago

Victoria Nuland being on the list surely sets off alarms about *where* this conspiracy originated?

brosemitesam.bsky.social•62 days ago

She promised Zelenskyy cookies, Ukrainians will do anything for some Nuland cookies.

s3rp86.bsky.social•62 days ago

They all pretty much believe the dumbest shit they see on Twitter now and then share it with each other . It's so confusing. Theoretically they have some of the greatest sources known to mankind at their disposal and instead chose to believe dumb slop on the internet.

josephbrucker.com•62 days ago

Joke->meme news account reports as news-> cpac account takes it seriously->guardian mistakenly reports that it was originated out of some real theory

hankwankford.bsky.social•62 days ago

That's not a joke, it's a deliberate attempt to float an idea to see if it gets hits.

A joke would be something unimaginable, like Obama flew in like a miniature ant man into zelenskys ear to dictate the conversation.

Also, a joke is funny, she is not funny.

josephbrucker.com•62 days ago

I know the author

hankwankford.bsky.social•62 days ago

That's unfortunate.

So does she realise her life is funded by making shit up?

I'm pretty sure it wasn't in her career choices.

falken.bsky.social•62 days ago

Hang on. Even if this was true, why would it be a big deal if they told him some platitudes like "stand strong"? Isn't that a fairly standard thing to say to someone who is about to go into an important negotiation?

What am I missing here?

aneshajoy.bsky.social•62 days ago

Lost grounding and hysteria

falken.bsky.social•62 days ago

I don't know what that means and your AI image is creepy.

aneshajoy.bsky.social•62 days ago

You can look it up by using a search engine.
Your image is creepy too, just in a different way.

falken.bsky.social•62 days ago

AI is kind of lame, but not as lame as the people who use AI.

aneshajoy.bsky.social•62 days ago

Ok. But be assured, one can be lame without AI too and your AI bashing is lame. Our tiny corners in the internet and our tiny lifes are already embedded in AI. C64 romantic times are over.

leyawiinofsiberia.bsky.social•62 days ago

And then Nuland boarded the plane mid-flight and gave Zelenskyy her magic cookies that make it so whoever eats them decides not to take any crap from wanna-be dictators.

ragnarjohansson.bsky.social•62 days ago

In my view the republican party has been on this path since they wanted to impeach Clinton because of a blow job.
Kelly who wasn’t really a war hero. (Didn’t McCain have to go through the same treatment?)
All the lying in order to get into war with Iraq.

ragnarjohansson.bsky.social•62 days ago

The way you had to support the war if you wanted to survive politically.
Systematically opposing any political measure coming from the Obama administration (After all he was born in Kenya and he is a radical communist or something of the sort).
Trump is just the end of the line (hopefully).

girasoles-lady.bsky.social•62 days ago

don’t count on it. there are plenty more willing - marjorie and boyfriend who asked the sits question, vance , RFK

didi175.bsky.social•62 days ago

Misinformation and random brain farts permeate the sm domain. When they asked for fact-checking to be banned, we should have clued in that this was going to be a free for all of lies.

danielbwiseman.bsky.social•62 days ago

anything for power

kathy13.bsky.social•62 days ago

Some idiot tried to use this one on me today.🙄

georgeslascar.bsky.social•62 days ago

But what can *break* that circuit of self perpetuating engagement with faux facts that appeals to mob instincts and distorts our reality? If social media is so susceptible to infection with fake news, after almost a generation growing up with it, isn’t the only sensible response then to quit it?

aneshajoy.bsky.social•62 days ago

In 'uzzia it seemed to have crashed last year. People turned away from state media in troves. The contrast between propaganda and the increasing hardships of day-to-day life has grown too big to handle the blah blah.

aneshajoy.bsky.social•62 days ago

In a few months more intense hardships might arrive in the US in many people's lives, there won't be too much time and energy left for nonsense..

aneshajoy.bsky.social•62 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/beefeaterfella.bsky.social/post/3lja4lrrn2s2s

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