I remember a tweet about how they should make the bitterest rock supergroup of all time by teaming up MIke Love, John Fogerty and Roger Waters, I can't remember the fourth guy and it's driving me crazy
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From the suggestions I've gotten, Van Morrison seems like it's probably the right answer but wow there are a lot of candidates. Truly the ingredients for the most miserable Rock Hall of Fame induction jam ever
I just read this and *immediately* thought Van Morrison. I once had to ask his tour manager how long he'd play.
"An hour."
"Is that with encores?"
"No, he always does what he's contracted. After an hour he'll leave."
So, an hour after he came onstage, he went. Left the backing band playing.
"There's a club if you'd like to go
You could meet somebody who really loves you
So you go and you stand on your own
And you leave on your own
And you go home and you cry
And you want to die"
This was basically a real show, they made a "rock and roll supergroup reality TV show in a house" called, literally, "Supergroup" in 2006. It had Sebastian Bach, Scott Ian, Ted Nugent, Jason Bonham and Evan Seinfeld and it was fucking horrific.
it was all on YouTube at one point and it's completely unwatchable. Scott Ian is barely in it if I remember because he is the only even-close-to-professional person in that lineup, other than maybe Jason Bonham.
I watched the whole thing, years ago, honestly don't know why I put myself through it. Or why any of those people or their agents let it happen. Or why VH1 commissioned it. Or why they aired it.
Henley came out to Uncertain Texas when I lived out there. I paid lot rent for my RV by cleaning cabins and that day, I was making extra by mopping the diner floors.
He and his entourage came in and I barked for them to walk around.
He asked if I knew who he was. I didn't, and said I didn't care. 😂
Personally I would throw Ringo Starr in there as the fourth because the idea of a totally harmless guy who's just happy to be there in with those temperamental, grouchy geniuses is very funny, and also basically why the Beatles exploded
I love that Ringo just goes out and plays music he likes with people he enjoys playing with and living his best life. Best example of what to do with wealth and fame.
Well, he does the biggest smart move any major celebrity can do, which is to keep his mouth shut about matters he isn't concerned with and doesn't know anything about
Most celebrities regard it as some kind of Duty to have an Opinion on everything, which is in fact a dreadful mistake that ends up harming most of them
Aaaahhhh! You’re correct, I meant Steve Perry. When did Ian rejoin the cult? So I’m totally out of the loop apparently. Don’t mind me, I’ll just slink away..,
this is why bands need to stop having exactly four guys. No one ever remembers the fourth guy and it's russian roulette on who's going to be the fourth gu-,it's the drummer. it's always the drummer.
Funny thing about the bass players, isn't it? There are are few "front man" bassists like Geddy Lee, Sting, Aimee Mann.
In the Rush doco "Behind the Lighted Stage," they talk about how only Geddy gets recognized all the time. A fan in a diner literally pushes past Alex to get a photo of Geddy. 😄
I understand why you might think that, especially if you watched my video on them, but trust me that there is no one more bitter on Earth than John Fogerty.
I was going to say Van Morrison but you beat me to it.
I delivered a parcel to him on a wet and stormy night in the middle of rural Oxfordshirebin the late 70s and he wouldn't let me use his phone to call the job in. Never forgive him or liked him since!
My parents were bay area hippies living in a commune in late 60s early 70s. Van was playing music at the big house next door and threatened to call authorities because my folks and their friends were enjoying the music from their own patio. Epitome of asshole genius.
Legend has it that Van Morrison is such an insufferable arsehole that each night one of his roadies would "swipe" his harmonica through their arse crack before each gig.
Arguably one of the most important figures in 20th century American music…but what a prick. I read Miles’s autobiography back in the early ‘90’s and have seen quite a few interviews. Absolutely brilliant musician. Complete asshole.
John Fogerty? What happened with him? Also, I'd like to take a moment to say how brutally disappointed in finding out Van Morrison is an ass. Into the Mystic is one of my favorite songs, but created by a hateful man. 😖
My father requested “Into the mystic” for his tombstone, and surprisingly the priest didn’t object. But yes, I’ve never heard a Van story where he wasn’t the villain.
I once imagined a supergroup made of legendarily moody stars - Lou Reed, Van Morrison, Roger Waters, Morrissey, (amongst others) - under the name "Curmudgeon".
I love the story that when some reviewer called Bob Mould "the most depressed man in music", Bob's reaction was a simple: "He's never met Stephin Merritt, obviously."
Not exactly what you're looking for, but this is a fun one from the Hoffman forums:
Let's get a supergroup formed with Frey, Love, John Fogerty, John Kay, Lars Ulrich and Morrissey and see who will be the last man standing. Call 'em The Sunshine Boyz. ;)
I hear Matt Gaetz is about to become available if he wants to form the world's most awful supergroup. We can all buy tickets for a chance to tinker with the plane engine.
You would need someone who is a perfectionist who is very opinionated and could push someones buttons. I think Donald Fagen would make a good fourth but only if he is in his Garfield form.
(I believe this video is originally from the site formerly known as Twitter)
You know, the more interesting comparison is Gilmour vs. Clapton. JMO, neither had much to say lyrically, but in terms of musicianship Gilmour is the legend. That man could say so much using the same scale and style that Clapton used to say little. Though Clapton in the 60s was a beast for sure.
It's all subjective. From my point of view, Clapton's work is 95% derivative, while Waters' work was highly original. Furthermore Clapton had a voice and said little while Waters said a great deal of great importance through his lyrics.
Musically no comparison. Clapton was great and Waters just OK.
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"An hour."
"Is that with encores?"
"No, he always does what he's contracted. After an hour he'll leave."
So, an hour after he came onstage, he went. Left the backing band playing.
You could meet somebody who really loves you
So you go and you stand on your own
And you leave on your own
And you go home and you cry
And you want to die"
Good times, good times.
He and his entourage came in and I barked for them to walk around.
He asked if I knew who he was. I didn't, and said I didn't care. 😂
I’m sure if I went digging I’d find something but still
Those who like Van Morrison - and those who have MET Van Morrison...
Surprisingly, a list of bitter rockers is a long one.
He might be more up himself then bitter
In the Rush doco "Behind the Lighted Stage," they talk about how only Geddy gets recognized all the time. A fan in a diner literally pushes past Alex to get a photo of Geddy. 😄
Jimmy Page!
John Bonham!
Other guy!
😆
Ray Davies
CSN&Y (U pick em)
Felder/Henley/Frey (U picked em)
!
I delivered a parcel to him on a wet and stormy night in the middle of rural Oxfordshirebin the late 70s and he wouldn't let me use his phone to call the job in. Never forgive him or liked him since!
Saw 'em all before they passed, and I gotta say: your disgruntled rich white guys are pikers compared to ripped-off old Black folks.
But it would never happen because they would fight over what it would be named.
Maybe Liam Gallagher could share his special magic with the others...
I saw that tour, as well.
It's wild
https://youtu.be/9xxryE82nes?si=S5KaTc1YTSrMuoRP
Dave has been Alex Jones levels of lunatic right wing conspiracy theorist for years now
Check out the Wiki about "Zanz Kant Danz”
Look up what Saul Zaentz did to him.
Let's get a supergroup formed with Frey, Love, John Fogerty, John Kay, Lars Ulrich and Morrissey and see who will be the last man standing. Call 'em The Sunshine Boyz. ;)
Sam and Dave, didn’t one of them shoot the other?
Just about any bands with brothers.
"Don't f*¢k with the formula!"
https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/mike-love-vs-glenn-frey.315650/
(I believe this video is originally from the site formerly known as Twitter)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQkL2gZhO6A&ab_channel=EvilAaron
Musically no comparison. Clapton was great and Waters just OK.