"they don't have the votes" as an excuse for "never even bother to try to get the votes, don't make a plan to get the votes in the short or long term, just wait for voters to give you like a 65-70 vote majority (buffer for the usual shitheads) so you can just zerg rush shit and win automatically" - ThreadSky

spacetwinks.bsky.social • 1 day ago

"they don't have the votes" as an excuse for "never even bother to try to get the votes, don't make a plan to get the votes in the short or long term, just wait for voters to give you like a 65-70 vote majority (buffer for the usual shitheads) so you can just zerg rush shit and win automatically"

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krinkle.bsky.social•1 day ago

if they ever get close to this threshhold they start talking about how they need a strong republican party and lets not go nuts everybody

spacetwinks.bsky.social•1 day ago

people always say "they never had the votes to codify abortion" and you can take them at the word; it's far more damning that the democrats never had any plans over years to get the votes to codify abortion. it was just "SCOTUS got it, nothing to worry about"

meanwhile GOP kept turning over shit

solomons.bsky.social•1 day ago

Pelosi actively campaigned for a pro-life Dem against a pro-choice primary challenger endorsed by Planned Parenthood. If they wanted to shift the caucus to get the votes, they would have.

spacetwinks.bsky.social•1 day ago

if you want to give the benefit of the doubt that dems actually want to do these things, it's clear that they only want to do them once victory is so overwhelmingly guaranteed thanks to the tireless efforts of other people so they can get a vote done in a week or less and then go home

spacetwinks.bsky.social•1 day ago

republicans: we're gonna constantly challenge human rights in every venue we can get, legislatively, in court rooms, executive, you name it, we'll do it, for decades, till we win

democrats: sorry we can't even rhetorically support some of these things until we have 70 votes in the senate

kuriva.im•1 day ago

"impeachment trial? fuck off, I have valentines day plans"

spacetwinks.bsky.social•1 day ago

sometimes people bring up "look the average dem was WAY worse during the obama years" to explain why so little got done, and it's true, they did suck but: do people think leadership had any interest in having those shitty dems replaced?

if they won in 2010, leadership would have their backs forever

spacetwinks.bsky.social•1 day ago

leadership constantly supporting the worst possible fucking democrats for years, backing them against primary challengers who want to do the good things you want, actually makes it really hard to ever get the votes to do the things people say dems never have enough votes for, quite obviously.

spacetwinks.bsky.social•1 day ago

"we really want the same things you want, it's just that we're compelled by some strange curse to fight you every step of the way whenever you try to replace the dems opposed to the good things. you should do something more realistic, like getting the great gazoo to teach them a moral lesson"

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