Respectfully disagree that this isn't difficult. IME, students need a fair amount of time to engage with the idea (readings, discussions) + navigating the new technologies (e.g., OSF, choosing btw the various prereg templates). Proseminars with demos/evangelizing won't cut it. - ThreadSky

johnsakaluk.bsky.social • 16 days ago

Respectfully disagree that this isn't difficult. IME, students need a fair amount of time to engage with the idea (readings, discussions) + navigating the new technologies (e.g., OSF, choosing btw the various prereg templates). Proseminars with demos/evangelizing won't cut it.

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johnsakaluk.bsky.social•16 days ago

Agree project-based exposure is best hope, but even then, how much discretionary research time do clinical students have?

TBC: agree on importance, and am entirely unsurprised by the enthusiasm from students.

But IMO, if clinical is to add, I think it needs to find places to subtract/condense.

nphillips36.bsky.social•16 days ago

As a current clinical psych grad student (and one of Josh's, so please take this with a grain of salt), I appreciate your perspective and agree that coursework is packed initially but would argue that we have considerable discretionary research time as coursework dwindles in later years.

nphillips36.bsky.social•16 days ago

As the program progresses, folks have much more time to gain exposure to concepts they find interesting and deem important to their research programs. Whether experience in OS rises to that threshold, however, is a question that likely reflects the culture of your lab and research program

jdmiller.bsky.social•16 days ago

Believe me, I think the vast majority of clinical faculty would love to subtract but feel they're handcuffed by APA (thus the reason for PCSAS's existence).

johnsakaluk.bsky.social•16 days ago

Totally understand. But then I think the trouble is with the curricula the APA approves, and the extent to which they do/don't change (and perhaps we have agree more there).

Some space for innovation in current curriculum, but IMO, the transformation you seek isn't feasible without reform from APA.

kevinmking.bsky.social•16 days ago

We implemented a pre-registration requirement at UW. But otherwise it's kind of niche. The research methods course doesn't cover much OS. And is we offer no training so I cannot guarantee students' PRs are good (except mine or @drpriscillalui.bsky.social 's of course).

drpriscillalui.bsky.social•15 days ago

I’m sure @Kevin’s registrations are excellent! We do what we can and are always learning and improving. OS doesn’t have to be a separate course and should be infused in everything we do.

drpriscillalui.bsky.social•15 days ago

An undergrad and 1st year PhD student in our lab just did their respective study registrations, another 1st year PhD student is preparing a stage 1 RR. We just had a lab journal club on OS & TOP guidelines last week. No extra coursework.

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