I still disagree with the term. White folks, in most cases, simply receive what they're supposed to under the law. This is not privilege.
Minority disadvantage would better describe what occurs AND wouldn't marginalise a significant number of white people who are otherwise pretty sympathetic
If three men living on the same street and working the same job are not treated exactly the same by all social institutions then one or more has privilege over the other. People don’t have to be posh to have privilege.
No, one has a disadvantage. Privilege is when somebody receives more than they should according to the societal contract in this case. You are not 'Privileged' to receive what you are entitled to. Look up the definition.
The divergence in our view comes from whether we agree that that special right/advantage must be stated legally to be relevant. I don’t agree to that. The privilege is enforced by state officials - so it is a privilege
And the real issue is, how do you get the majority onside with the view that minorities are being mistreated? And it's not by trying to guilt trip people who are not. If you do that, you deafen them to your (entirely fair) point.
People don't like being wrong, much less guilty or complicit.
Nope. Sorry. If you are being treated exactly as the law states you should be, you are receiving no privilege whatsoever. None.
I agree completely that minorities, especially racial ones are not treated appropriately, but they are disadvantaged. Those being treated correctly are not privileged
Absolutely, so if people are receiving what they are supposed to, are they privileged? Nope.
Minorities are disadvantaged, the majority is very rarely privileged.
If you've paid for it, it's yours. You're not privileged to have it.
(2 of 2) Initiatives like DEI, CRT, & Affirmative Action have been systematically dismantled by racist White individuals, with little to no opposition from others within the White community.
Focusing on semantics diminishes the gravity of the issue. Regardless of the terminology, it often goes unnoticed by White individuals as it doesn't directly impact them. ( 1 of 2)
When are people going to recognise that terminology matters? That when your terminology aggravates people, they switch off to your (probably good & fair) idea?
What you are arguing is Whites have no advantage in the law when we have replete evidence that on its face proves White privilege in every aspect of this country. If it were not so, then there would be nothing for you to be defensive about. You don't even have to look for evidence, just go to court!
Who's being defensive? I'm simply saying that what you're calling white privilege is, in fact, systemic racism
Most of the privileged class (billionaires, ruling elites) are indeed white due to systemic racism - but that doesn't mean that being white makes you privileged. That's a logical fallacy
Because obviously there has never been intra racial racism, eugenic class genocide, ethnic hatred or systemic class oppression against white people that approximated racism or exceeded it
You left out "No Italians, No Jews." The focus of this meme is on the present day or recent times. Most intra-racial differences have largely faded—whether in religion, customs, or beauty standards, they've been unified. This is evident in how Asians are treated in these areas as well.
In America you still have historical remnant.of the White Anglo Saxon Protestant elite oligarchy as part of the wider oligarchy structure that now includes all races and religions.
The Irish, Italian, Eastern European of poor white working class
I feel like discrimination more accurately describes what is happening. I mean that's how it was framed growing up.
The privilege thing kind of just assumes that we don't have bad discriminatory experiences and vice versa that if you are non-white it's only discriminatory experiences.
As a white person who has struggled and had a very difficult time… I have always said…. I can only imagine how much more difficult this would have been had I been black because I have seen black people in my situation and saw their struggles and I am in awe of them.
I know a multi-millionaire. Owns tons. Definitely worked for what he has but many things came easily because of their background. Expensive education. Says he is not White privileged. Clearly has no clue of what it means.
You just experienced the inverse of it. Use that as a strength instead of something to detract from the experience. Share with everyone how it made you feel. Share why we all should be concerned when people are discriminated against based on skin color.
Unless your argument is: White skin is making your life harder than it is for people who are not White, your argument is moot and sounds like a Reverse Racism argument.
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Minority disadvantage would better describe what occurs AND wouldn't marginalise a significant number of white people who are otherwise pretty sympathetic
‘a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group.
"education is a right, not a privilege"
People don't like being wrong, much less guilty or complicit.
I agree completely that minorities, especially racial ones are not treated appropriately, but they are disadvantaged. Those being treated correctly are not privileged
"education is a right, not a privilege"
Minorities are disadvantaged, the majority is very rarely privileged.
If you've paid for it, it's yours. You're not privileged to have it.
Privilege (from the Latin for private law) implies preferential treatment
Historically, ruling classes literally had their own laws
Norman England was a good example of this
Most of the privileged class (billionaires, ruling elites) are indeed white due to systemic racism - but that doesn't mean that being white makes you privileged. That's a logical fallacy
never signs like
No Blacks
No Dogs
No Irish
on hotels and businesses
The Irish, Italian, Eastern European of poor white working class
Remnants of intra racial racism embedded as class
Infra racial racism never left, it merely consolidated as class differences and remains consolidated today
e.g.
Norman aristocracy
Anglo Saxon middle class
Irish, welsh, Celtic working class
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1891_New_Orleans_lynchings
The privilege thing kind of just assumes that we don't have bad discriminatory experiences and vice versa that if you are non-white it's only discriminatory experiences.
This meme is unflappable. Learn from it.