I'll say this. If you're right, then I just flat agree with you. As I understand it, the ruling stops gender affirming care and I don't particularly care for that, but if I'm wrong and they have done surgeries on minors, I'm against that. I'm not fool enough to think that this is the end, that said. - ThreadSky

verxen.bsky.social • 15 days ago

I'll say this. If you're right, then I just flat agree with you. As I understand it, the ruling stops gender affirming care and I don't particularly care for that, but if I'm wrong and they have done surgeries on minors, I'm against that. I'm not fool enough to think that this is the end, that said.

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sick-n-tired.bsky.social•12 days ago

Or you could just mind your own damn business and let the PARENTS decide what’s best for their kids

verxen.bsky.social•15 days ago

It will be expanded and used against adults, who even if you don't agree, accept, think is possible, whatever, they have a right to be comfortable in their skin. Some outgrow the dysphoria, and some don't. They deserve to do whatever they want with their lives, period.

indie-voter-ca.bsky.social•15 days ago

If a child with two healthy eyes said “I believe I should only have one eye”, and the doctor removed the healthy eye, everyone would agree that doctor should go to prison.

This is the same thing.

The correct response is to address the root of the delusion, not remove body parts.

occamsdaughter.bsky.social•11 days ago

Cuz you're a doctor with medical training to know what actually happens here?

1. No surgeries are being performed on minors (or have ever been). Only on fully grown adults after their bodies have finished growing.
2. Someone else's medical decisions are none of your business. Period.

indie-voter-ca.bsky.social•11 days ago

‘Medical decisions are none of our business’ you say.
Yet I GUARANTEE you supported vaccine mandates! Hahaaaa!

You tragically ignorant fucking hypocrite.

occamsdaughter.bsky.social•11 days ago

Gosh, you're touchy. I supported vaccines because I was looking after my elderly mother. No one who wasn't vaccinated was allowed anywhere near us. That made medical appointments problematic. Especially if medical personnel weren't vaccinated.

Don't care if you put yourself at risk, tho.

johnatron.bsky.social•9 days ago

He’s just a dip shit troll.

occamsdaughter.bsky.social•9 days ago

Actually, sorry to say, I'm doing a little bit of trolling, but with a purpose.

The kind of weird ass emotional outbursts by people like this...it's like a nursery school brawl on ice skates. Kinda sad-funny. But every now and again I get through to someone. So I don't think it's a waste.

indie-voter-ca.bsky.social•11 days ago

So if a parent is abusing their child it’s none of our business?
If a parent lets their kid gouge their eyes out because they identify as blind, it’s none of our business? There should be no laws that prohibit abusing children? No laws against medical malpractice?

You’re fucking sick.

occamsdaughter.bsky.social•11 days ago

You need to learn to debate without logical fallacies, as above.
https://blog.hubspot.com/marketing/common-logical-fallacies

occamsdaughter.bsky.social•11 days ago

This isn't child abuse. Children have the right to question their identity. Nor is this self-harm by children. This is a child figuring out who they are. It's normal and natural.

Children who are not supported through this, are the ones prone self-harm. Not the ones who receive support.

indie-voter-ca.bsky.social•11 days ago

Celebrities are giving speeches in front of hospitals where there kids had surgeries.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14358995/amp/Cynthia-Nixon-reveals-son-sisters-kids-friends-kids-trans-protest-NYU-trump.html

occamsdaughter.bsky.social•11 days ago

It's not about you. Think it evil all you want. It won't change the individual who questions.

occamsdaughter.bsky.social•11 days ago

I don't like plastic surgery, generally, except in cases like severe burns. I think lipo and augmentations are disgusting and especially bad for women.

That doesn't mean I think I have the right to interfere with someone else's medical decisions. Cuz it's not about me, none of my business.

indie-voter-ca.bsky.social•11 days ago

Answer this: if a child with two healthy arms feels like they should only have one arm, is it morally justifiable to remove their arm?

occamsdaughter.bsky.social•11 days ago

Puberty blockers aren't surgery. These are drugs that postpone puberty to give a child time to figure out what they want. It's much much easier to transition when they become adults if that's what they choose to do as an adult.

You don't have to like it. But it's not about you.

indie-voter-ca.bsky.social•11 days ago

Ah so just sterilization and chemical castration.
No big deal.

Then what happens after that?
Surgeries. 100%

You’re right, I don’t have to like it.
Nobody should like it.
Everyone should hate it, because it’s evil.

indie-voter-ca.bsky.social•11 days ago

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/10/09/us/vanderbilt-suspends-gender-affirming-surgery-minors

occamsdaughter.bsky.social•11 days ago

Correction. Something like a top surgery may be done prior to going to university, for example. So, someone close to the age of majority may on occasion have surgery.

Surely that's a drop in the bucket compared to teens getting breast augmentation and other plastic surgeries.

occamsdaughter.bsky.social•11 days ago

I remember that. They stopped doing something they weren't doing lol.

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/05/scicheck-young-children-do-not-receive-medical-gender-transition-treatment/

indie-voter-ca.bsky.social•11 days ago

How can you say it’s not happening?
Why are Democrats protesting for it to continue happening if it’s not happening?
Why are hospitals shutting down their gender surgeries for minors, if it wasn’t happening?

This is not even debatable.

You’re fucking brainwashed.

indie-voter-ca.bsky.social•15 days ago

They can whatever they want with their lives. But doctors and hospitals cannot be allowed to remove the healthy body parts of children. That’s called medical malpractice.

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