True, but controversially, a lot of users are frustrated by re-running on the server when you do a client-side transition. There are huge discussions in next from gSSP times on how to work around that, because oftentimes, on a client side transition, you already have that data cached. - ThreadSky

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tkdodo.eu • 71 days ago

True, but controversially, a lot of users are frustrated by re-running on the server when you do a client-side transition. There are huge discussions in next from gSSP times on how to work around that, because oftentimes, on a client side transition, you already have that data cached.

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chobozor.bsky.social•71 days ago

Does next plan on offering a solution for gSSP? I work around it by checking if it is a client navigation and early return in gSSP :/

tkdodo.eu•71 days ago

That's what I did, too: check for `next/data` in the url or something. I think the canonical solution for them is RSC, even though I'd say it doesn't actually "fix" this problem.

tkdodo.eu•71 days ago

Adding extra caching on the server is super hard, especially when you already have a client cache like react-query. Imo it's the "simpler model" to run loaders on the server once on initial load as an extra step to gain perf there.

tkdodo.eu•71 days ago

So generally I agree with the thinking that those are first and foremost client loaders that we happen to run on the server too on first load. I think that's a concept that lots of people will like :)

jamesarosen.com•71 days ago

I’ll be curious to see how Start handles the server pushing data to multiple loader caches.

Example: a POST /comments that (a) adds the comment to the blog and (b) adds a success message to the central flash store.

I think remix handles this better than most I’ve seen.

ballingt.com•71 days ago

One answer is "just like React Query handles it," (because that integration is strong) which has a set of recipes for this; it's not a normalized store, but you get fine-grained control over your fetchers and cache keys if you want it

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