The full article is here. It is a truly staggering thing to have written.
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If anyone wants to read it - I've seen enough of her
If anyone wants to read it - I've seen enough of her
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If she's not English, then neither is Sunak, or Badenoch?
So they shouldn't lead the English (something I have some sympathy with, but not due to race!) And only someone who is culturally English should despite there being no definition of English?
Incoherent, inconsistent nonsense
what’s that love, Church of England? Fuck right off with your arrivist immigrant religions 🙄
It’s such a cynical act of self-denial to please a bunch of racists.
"But to preserve something, we must first define it" is her biggest error though
Trying to pin down abstract ideology leads to madness... or a rock hut
She also fails to see that there are two aspects to definition of anything; what it is and what it does
You might enjoy this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrF14M4SES4
She’s trying to ride the tiger, we know what always happens to those types…
Or is it that you are happy exploiting the benefits that your faux Englishness affords you ?
It will forever amaze me how ghouls like Bravermann who conflate ethnicity and nationality, also, almost invariably, romanticise our imperial past.
https://youtu.be/FkmRDTDq5a8?si=L0VS5HWMgklKq0TD
-Braverman for her "why some people can't be English" screed
or
-The Nazigraph for publishing Braverman's "why some people can't be English" screed
It's a close contest.
And just how English were the Romans? How well did the Saxons she refers to assimilate? It's ahistorical bullshit which doesn't even add weight to her grubby argument.
What does an ethnic Brazilian look like? And were the Chinese people of 501AD not Chinese because they're ethnically different to those of today?
There is a consensus. It's the view of almost everyone in this country that you can be English without being white.
*Depends on where you start counting from, could also be 32/128
Hardly any of the England football team will be - including the white lads.
I never agreed with Tory policies but they used to have some serious, heavyweight politicians. How did they ever end up with halfwits like the current lot?
The logical contortions she's willing to go through to hate on people is a sight to behold.
If you can identify them.
Aren’t we all descended from Edward III?
We had already had Roman & Norse occupation & the Normans invaded barely 5 minutes after its formation.
We are/were multicultural from the very start. You can't take the eggs out of a baked cake and all that.
I think, in fairness to her though, there are two aspects to the definition of anything: what it is and what it does
She's stuck in the abstract ideology of trying to pin down something intangible, whereas, you've chosen to ignore it completely.
No DNA testing and most people didn’t have copies of all those birth, marriage and death certificates.
Ok Suella
Its one, or even none if it makes things easier
Problem solved
Now any chance you can stop being batshit mental about this and try to stop appeasing the racists?
Cheers
How many know their family tree well enough to know the names of all 126 ancestors, let alone where they were born, etc?
Absurd stuff.
Who tf knows whether their family lived in Britain 180 years ago?
Some of the right-wing headbangers might be shocked to find how un-British they are based on Braverman's rule.
Gods, she's either thick or mendacious. Or both!
It's none. No generations at all.
Easy.
It's a nonsense obviously - I've been "English" for many generations (literally ten in the same farmhouse in the Midlands) but am still 40%+ Scottish.
So, I gazump Suella, Boris and Farage and I say stuff their bigotry. We pre-date Judeo-Christian civilisation. She omits Islam which worships the same Abrahamic god.
British values are about fair play and English culture is enriched by migrants.
Is she accidentally arguing the English don’t exist? That’s precisely the kind of faux-intellectual ignorance we’ve come to expect of her, to be fair.
And at the core is the BNP belief that you can't be English unless you are ethnically white and have lived here for nameless generations.
I am beginning to think there might not be as much careful thought and rigorous analysis behind her statement as one could wish.
Not that any logic was involved in getting to this point.
My great grandparents came to England at the turn of the last century, fleeing the pogroms in Poland. Apparently that means I’m not English either.
As for her self-loathing? Textbook.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/istanbul-letter-lunch-with-boris-johnson-s-turkish-cousin-1.2650967
They made a choice to preserve their culture of origin.
Her circumstances, British English Mauritian Kenyan Indian mean she is likely confused about her own identity, which is fine. (So am I)
It is just not a basis for judgements about others.
Only people who are identifiably "not white"
It all went wrong when coffee before more popular than tea…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maro_Itoje
Question 1 - Do you want to be Scottish?
Question 2 - Were you born, or have you settled, in Scotland, or have a parent who is Scottish?
If you answered “yes” to both of these, you’re Scottish, and here’s a deep fried product to celebrate…
https://open.substack.com/pub/glennpeters/p/panic-on-the-streets?r=7rnyq&utm_medium=ios
With her own words maybe this explains why she is such a diabolical MP and not fit to represent an English constituency
Perhaps on holiday and you were born early?
Or away on government business?
Performative and divisive politics at its worst.