Italian PM Meloni suggests extending NATO’s Article 5 to Ukraine without full membership, per FT. Article 5 states that an attack on one NATO country is an attack on all.
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Meloni couldn't miss Trump's inauguration. She was the only European leader to attend
Trump 2.0 's inauguration.
She made a special quick trip just to kiss the Dictator's Ring.
Meloni’s proposal is reckless—extending NATO’s Article 5 to Ukraine without full membership is a disaster waiting to happen. And with Trump’s ignorance on global affairs and his open admiration for Putin, there’s a real risk he’d weaponize US policy against NATO, not for it. #FuckTrump
the latest news casts doubt on this given that funds are needed for rearmament and furthermore all of Europe is switching to Eutelsat in order to maintain the circular economy
When trumpsky pulls the US out of NATO, is it still called NATO or shall it be called EURO...?
Europe is on out own now and it is time our politicians understand that and don't hesitate on everything like they use to... Either we wake up now or wake up in russia in a couple of years...
This means nothing. Meloni is merely trying not to piss Trump while also not being ousted by UK, France and Germany. It's a useless proposal, only to buy some time and avoid positioning herself because she's a mediocre politician who can do nothing of real value for her country, when it matters
She really needs to be engaged in all discussions, she's a constructive bridge between left and right Europe. Plus she's a women they have more courage. Bravo for Zelensky, as always, his instincts are so good!
“We need to think about more durable solutions” than sending European peacekeeping troops to Ukraine, Meloni said on the sidelines of a European Union leaders’ meeting in Brussels on Thursday 🥰
being more sane than the batshit leader of a literal cult, isn't the brag you might think it is. Meloni is still who she is and even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Interesting. I would think USA/HU/SK would need to approve though, and if so, it's more about getting the dialogue moving and putting this sort of idea out there. This all ties in with EU now USA is gone *needing* UA to stay up, and so now getting actually involved in fighting. War is coming to EU.
This is why we need more women in power. I feel women are less likely to be influenced by their egos! Women in general are more caring which is also a good trait to have when you’re in power right?
Yea we saw with Merkel how great women are in power. Joke aside, there’s 0 difference between genders here, character counts all can be good or be trash.
I hear you.I agree for the most part. From my experiences, women have more of a caring nurturing side than men. Of course, you can always find a few bad apples.
Eg. Boebert, Mace, MTG, etc. I don’t think one gender is intrinsically better in leading than another. But circumstances and experience have honed soft power skills with those who have that talent. And culturally women have been brought up to rely on soft power far more.
Yeah, going into a full scale war. Maybe she did not notice, that we cannot rely on the USA any longer - which is a serious problem for the NATO. Even if it is only about defending.
Being in NATO does not preclude any country from assisting Ukraine. They just can't call it a NATO action. They can call it an Italian action or a Coalition of the Willing action, whatever they want.
NATO members are not required to come to the aid of other NATO members. Poland is in danger if Ukraine is overrun by the russians, they could invoke Article 5 and move into Ukraine to ensure the peace.
Or simply send European troops to Ukraine to assist them in training and security, away from the front lines.
Putin has already said that he would regard that as an attack by NATO.
Push him to react.
Don't underestimate the strength of russia. But equally, don't overestimate the US. The civilised world needs to stand up and deman that both the US and Russia get their meddling fingers out. We will do things our way.
Impressive leader. Manages to integrate her right wing ideology with a belief in the benefits of a free united Europe that can overcome conflicting political ideologies for the common good.
Maybe if Europe will get the stick out of their ass, let Ukraine join NATO, so then Ukraine can fight for them, too. Time to grow up and pull your weight, the US ain't going to do it for you anymore.
He will do the donold dance. He'll threaten to leave NATO, no one will care, then he'll say NATO gave into his demands so US is staying, no one will care, then he'll threaten to leave NATO ...
Well given in 2001 they did the same for the USSRA, it seems like a reasonable thing to me. Although what might be better was setting up a whole new organisation that excludes the US
Yes. Actually. Exactly that, Meloni. An attack on Ukraine is an attack on us all. Go, Meloni, that’s exactly the right policy. No more bs. All it takes, and now!!!
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realistically, ukraine IS ALREADY a member of NATO, without article 5.
they have nato weapons and are working extremely closely with nato countries. the only thing they DONT have is article 5... and thats all they need.
Ring
Rutte "Now what"
Either Meloni is sick or she wants to change art 5 in favor of Ukraine
Rutte
You're early on April fools #hangsup
#Ring
Rutte this is Meloni.
Hell just froze over.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpzsZuazTpU
Trump 2.0 's inauguration.
She made a special quick trip just to kiss the Dictator's Ring.
My brain hurts
Europe is on out own now and it is time our politicians understand that and don't hesitate on everything like they use to... Either we wake up now or wake up in russia in a couple of years...
NATO is dead. The whole point of NATO is deterrence, with the enemy believing the deterrence is real.
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I dont think so. Do you?
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Three days ago, she said no Italian troops would be sent to Ukraine.
They must just not be COWARDS!!
when you're for example a same sex couple with kids.
I'm going to hurl.
You can't be partially on alliance. You in it, or out.
Where there's a will, there's a way.
Putin has already said that he would regard that as an attack by NATO.
Push him to react.
Better to form a new alliance - call it Nations United Against Russian Barbarity & Depravity or whatever
Our orange turd will probably withdraw the US from NATO soon, so it may become a moot point
I suggest:
FYTO. Fuck you Trump Organisation