And so they go on a waiting list for when a new visa is available. Meanwhile, USCIS provides those people with work authorizations during the wait. Seems reasonable, right? /4 - ThreadSky

szreich.bsky.social • 27 days ago

And so they go on a waiting list for when a new visa is available. Meanwhile, USCIS provides those people with work authorizations during the wait.

Seems reasonable, right?

/4

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szreich.bsky.social•27 days ago

Except those people still don't have legal status until a visa becomes available. Worse still, Trump's ICE is right now arresting such U Visa applicants and seeking to deport them. ICE and USCIS are both part of Dept. of Homeland Security.

/5

szreich.bsky.social•27 days ago

So you have the exact same department both issuing these people work authorizations which entitles them to legally work anywhere in the US, and deport them.

/6

jacksonpierce.bsky.social•27 days ago

What does any of that have to do with deporting people who skipped that process entirely?

50% of people here without permission are visa overstays.

They knew the terms of the visa, they broke them.

palecur.bsky.social•27 days ago

freedom of movement is an essential human right. the only reasonable visa reform is its utter elimination and completely open borders.

palecur.bsky.social•27 days ago

even if it means letting in people like you.

jacksonpierce.bsky.social•27 days ago

Charming.

"freedom of movement is an essential human right"

It isn't. Unless you think the people of Israel have a right to enter Palestinian land and set up encampments.

Or do you prefer is some guy in Arizona build a house on an Native American reservation without asking the tribe first?

szreich.bsky.social•27 days ago

What you're imagining is the case isn't really what is happening.

What is happening is that ICE is trying to meet arrest quotas, and they get the same credit for arresting someone they ask to come into their office as someone absconding, so they're going after the people trying to cooperate.

jacksonpierce.bsky.social•27 days ago

What do you think should be done with people here without permission?

Removal? Incarceration? Pathway to citizenship?

Our immigration system is convoluted, flawed and slow as molasses....but ignoring it all together shouldn't be rewarded.

What's wrong with deportation, in principle?

szreich.bsky.social•27 days ago

In immigration court, if those applicants don't have another defense available where they can stall for time until their U Visa arrives, you're looking at people who are likely to be deported, and then given a U Visa next year.

/7

szreich.bsky.social•27 days ago

And maybe you don't care, thinking that sitting outside the US for 1 year doesn't sound that harsh. But if they've been deported, they're not eligible (without a waiver that takes ~5 yrs to process) to return to the US for 10 years, even if they have an approved U Visa.

/8

maureenabell78.bsky.social•27 days ago

If you work in this field with u petitions, you really need to know that the I-192 absolutely will waive a prior deportation and it can be filed or supplemented after the U is filed.

kathryntewson.bsky.social•27 days ago

Is the federal government continuing to act as though that's true?

szreich.bsky.social•27 days ago

'Prior' being the operative word here.

An approved I-192 won't help you if you're subsequently ordered removed.

szreich.bsky.social•27 days ago

And the kick in the pants? U Visas only last 4 years!

And I cannot emphasize this enough—examples like these are examples of people who are trying their goddamn best to do it the right way.

/9

szreich.bsky.social•27 days ago

The point is that empty facile slogans popular among immigration skeptics demonstrate that they either don't know, or don't care, about the these details.

/fin

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