All the “just asking questions about metaphysics” philosophers who have helped bring about this current siege on trans people: you can still admit you were wrong and it was a bad project that has helped ruin peoples lives dailynous.com/2025/02/10/w... - ThreadSky

audreysh.bsky.social • 22 days ago

All the “just asking questions about metaphysics” philosophers who have helped bring about this current siege on trans people: you can still admit you were wrong and it was a bad project that has helped ruin peoples lives https://dailynous.com/2025/02/10/while-tables-burn-on-the-non-existence-of-trans-people-and-the-failure-of-philosophy-guest-post/

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dhunterto.bsky.social•21 days ago

Right. Imagine devoting a career to honing the skills of analytic philosophy only to end it by making life harder for the most vulnerable. Go think about how many angels can fit on a pin!

deanbooth.bsky.social•20 days ago

Perhaps the problem is that most(?) philosophers are essentialists.

kmdoublev.bsky.social•21 days ago

It's always a good day to stop being a cruel bigot ✌️

markvr1.bsky.social•21 days ago

The cited essay is really worth a read, especially be professional philosophers.

markvr1.bsky.social•21 days ago

"be" should be "for" in that posting of mine. I don't know whether it is that I can't type or that I can't think that explains that one.

mollydot.bsky.social•18 days ago

type! you must have been thinking of "by"

kantandquine.bsky.social•21 days ago

Missing from the post is anything demonstrating that Trump or his cabal read papers on the metaphysics of gender… or any papers on metaphysics at all. Correlation =/= causation

audreysh.bsky.social•21 days ago

This isn’t Twitter so if you’re just a transphobe then I’m moving on real fast, but like, yes, high profile transphobic philosophers have totally helped to shape the current scary climate for trans folks and we don’t need to have the entire causal chain worked out to say they should just stop

kantandquine.bsky.social•21 days ago

To be clear I could care less if people stop writing about “can people really be transgender”. It seems like a pointless question anyway. But I just don’t think anyone is reading these papers except a handful of academics

kantandquine.bsky.social•21 days ago

The thing is that you are explicitly blaming (and shaming) people for writing some speculative metaphysics on the basis that it has caused real harm. I think you should have some more evidence for this supposed harm than “it’s obvious”. I didn’t even know about this literature until you mentioned it

climateball.net•21 days ago

The thing is that you were Just Asking Questions the other day:

https://bsky.app/profile/kantandquine.bsky.social/post/3lgjiwm6hzs2b

mattweiner19.bsky.social•21 days ago

First, you're wrong about the lack of clear evidence for causation. The UK anti-trans policies cited the anti-trans philosophers and US anti-trans forces cited the UK.

mattweiner19.bsky.social•21 days ago

Second, you're trying to impose an overly stringent standard for moral responsibility. When someone adopts a hate slogan against a group,* and that hate slogan shows up in the order attacking that group, they bear partial responsibility.

*"adult human female," sold on Posey Parker's merchandise

mattweiner19.bsky.social•21 days ago

If you join a movement, you own what that movement does, even if it would've happened without you.

wendelschwab.bsky.social•21 days ago

Everyone should read this.

kazedkaz.bsky.social•21 days ago

Except that if they did that, they'd have to admit they were click and comment farming for clout and ad revenue, and generally have no actual concern for the state of the profession or anything else.

audreysh.bsky.social•21 days ago

I guess it’s easier to get a profile in the conservative media landscape by being a “cancelled” transphobe than by actually doing something worthwhile so

kazedkaz.bsky.social•21 days ago

For sure, though I was mostly talking about the outlets like IHE and DN who have been doing great for themselves by perpetuating the 'debate' for years.

audreysh.bsky.social•21 days ago

If Justin does a GC guest post for like “balance” at DN I might scream, it’s true

kazedkaz.bsky.social•21 days ago

There is a reason I refuse to visit that site.

audreysh.bsky.social•22 days ago

Alternately, even just shutting the fuck up about the subject would be better than being defensive about your shitty gender and sexual orientation projects - just stop hurting people

calebw.bsky.social•22 days ago

This times one thousand

audreysh.bsky.social•22 days ago

I will even stop being snarky about all the super abstract stuff in philosophy that has basically zero impact on the world if the anti trans philosophers will just agree to go back there and stay there

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