I’ve seen some really good non-social-network type apps running on nostr that are still super cool though. whereas on atproto people are using bluesky posts as databases lol
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agree, i think the best combination would be if the underlying infrastructure is decentralized like nostr, but users are able to create more more cosy, semi-closed, moderated communities with semi-permeable membranes between them
not as one dump—the bar is just too low if's trivial to create say 1000 keypairs and flood you with insults, or whatever, and that's what nostr is right now
yeah no I've found her writing really useful on this! I guess at the end of the day I just don't think 'federation' (as she uses it, as employed by mastodon et al) is actually _usefully_ decentralized.
any protocol with mandatory custody of accounts (directly like mastodon or indirectly like bsky) just...well we have two protocol solutions that don't quite fit
federation is about how instances communicate, it doesn't necessarily mean that kind of account feudalism; they could potentially decouple instances and accounts in fediverse
though it's unlikely they will, they're so set in a certain way of doing things
(still no quote toots even ffs 😅)
no I know that is *possible*, I'm just talking about the actual implementation. decoupling accounts and instances would be huuuuuge but yeah i fully do not expect them to do anything to improve the platform at all lol
mastodon makes a big deal about account migration but your provider can just nuke that for you if they want to. bsky lets you run a pds but controls your migrations in other ways.
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still very much agree with what Christine Lemmer-Webber writes in https://dustycloud.org/blog/how-decentralized-is-bluesky/
though it's unlikely they will, they're so set in a certain way of doing things
(still no quote toots even ffs 😅)