I hate when people do this. Yeah, if Pence were wagging a finger at Biden I might roll my eyes. But it's useful to have Trump's former VP standing up to Trump & for the truth. Why on earth would you want to slap him down for it? What purpose does it serve, other than making you feel smug? - ThreadSky

gpgomez.bsky.social • 3 days ago

I hate when people do this. Yeah, if Pence were wagging a finger at Biden I might roll my eyes. But it's useful to have Trump's former VP standing up to Trump & for the truth. Why on earth would you want to slap him down for it? What purpose does it serve, other than making you feel smug?

Reposted from DaShanne Stokes 🌐

I dont think the guy who stood by and enabled all of Trump's lie the first time around gets to lecture anyone about truth.

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giselledonnelly.bsky.social•3 days ago

We gotta take ‘em where we get ‘em.

susiecc.bsky.social•2 days ago

Agree 1000%. Keep eyes on the enemy & the goal

cookiemojo.bsky.social•2 days ago

I am just grateful that some GOP r standing up. I don't care whom it is.

wwyz.bsky.social•2 days ago

Menschen ändern sich- und Pence hat sich sehr geändert und erkannt,was Trump für ein böser widerlicher Mensch ist!!Im Gegenteil finde ich sehr gut,das Pence ehrlich ist und sich ganz klar von Trumps Aussagen distanziert!!

katyah.bsky.social•3 days ago

Yes! Plus, we need people. We need other people to be act bravely *now*. Yesterday is not relevant considering the urgency of the matter.

cjbeee.bsky.social•2 days ago

The point is it’s too late now

retiredsexsymbol.bsky.social•3 days ago

Because it’s too damn late for him to wag a finger now. He should have had balls to stand up to him when he sent his goons in to kill Pence if necessary they stop transfer of power!

whateer2023.bsky.social•3 days ago

Just for moral purity, these ppl are naive and nuts, can easily turn to the other side.

liberalpaul.bsky.social•3 days ago

I hear you. Glad someone on the right is taking up a little slack, but that guy has a HUGE point.

tischdad.bsky.social•2 days ago

💯

ryangray.bsky.social•3 days ago

Agreed - we need all of the allies we can get.

adeleismyname.bsky.social•3 days ago

Yup, I'm on board

marybees.bsky.social•2 days ago

I agree with you. Sometimes it takes people a while, some a long, long while to snap out of it. If Pence has finally got the kool-aid out of his system, I give him credit. I want him to say much, much more. He's supposed to be a religious man. And he has been threatened with death, so good for him.

jr5474.bsky.social•3 days ago

Pence is culpable and complicit for all he did, but it's publicly useful when these partisans speak out because the situation can no longer be solely framed as a partisan "Democrats vs Republicans" issue. Ultimately, fracturing the Trump/Republican caucus is a good thing.

woollahra.bsky.social•3 days ago

Pence turning on him happened on Jan 6th. He just stood there gaping. Realising his own President wasn't above getting him killed just to stay in power. After that sort of thing happens to you there is no more love left.

gvgoebel.bsky.social•3 days ago

Apparently, at the inauguration, Mother demonstrated a clear aversion to Trump.

mareikejenner.bsky.social•2 days ago

He left the cult. He could be helpful.

trruhnke.bsky.social•3 days ago

Pence is overly religious and has a cramped view of the human experience, but he respects the Constitution and actually values our allies around the world. So at this point in time, go Mike!

ondinemd.bsky.social•2 days ago

Word. And beautifully phrased. As an ESL I do :love: seeing beautiful English. 🥰

trruhnke.bsky.social•2 days ago

Danke

rephemeral.bsky.social•3 days ago

tough times demand moral relativism

we allied with Stalin. we can tout Mike Pence

aurorajardin.bsky.social•3 days ago

Fighting from within is exactly what Putin wants. If we gatekeep, we become weak. I do not condone a lot of this man’s actions but he is showing more courage than the Republican senators who vote for 🤡💩’s minions and are afraid to stand up to him.

gvgoebel.bsky.social•3 days ago

Yeah. Pence has some bad history behind him, but I'm not gonna pick on him for saying exactly the right thing, with obvious sincerity. *Better late than never, Mikey.*

gpgomez.bsky.social•3 days ago

This is the way. We don't have to love him. We don't have to give him a hug. But he's doing exactly the right thing here and that's a good thing.

gvgoebel.bsky.social•3 days ago

You write: "Blocking is my hobby."

It's mine, too, and that seems to be the norm on BlueSky. For years, I'd get annoyed at people engaging with trolls: *No, don't snap at the bait!*

Like Pence, people have learned.

mariesflowers.bsky.social•3 days ago

But we don’t, after all their complicity, have to make them into heroes. They ARE part of the reason he is back.

kathmarval.bsky.social•2 days ago

It's such a foolish response.
Sometimes understandable, sometimes anything but - but it's foolish & profoundly irritating.
https://bsky.app/profile/kathmarval.bsky.social/post/3lilk5jiors2d

terencebegleyfl.bsky.social•2 days ago

Times like these, we have to agree with people from the Republican Party when they are making a good point on an issue.

judyblue007.bsky.social•3 days ago

I like what Pence is saying. I wish he'd make sure Trump heard him say it. He didn't reply to Trump. But respect. All due respect.

superfactual.bsky.social•3 days ago

The thing that makes me mad is that NOW he wants to say something? Why the hell was Pence not campaigning for Kamala and being featured in her ads against Trump?! He was quiet!

starrynight0143.bsky.social•2 days ago

chaoslions.bsky.social•3 days ago

I would never vote for Pence (or Liz Cheney) for anything. But when someone says the truth about something, you have to give them credit for that. Otherwise you're just being blindly partisan, and that doesn't help anyone. Truth matters more than making your team win.

gh-kirsch.bsky.social•3 days ago

So correct, Ms. Gomez. We need to applaud a new class, Born Again Americans.

hey.rupert.murdochbait.click•3 days ago

Let us pray that Trump doesn't pull Mike's security detail.
He would be in Heaven in a week.

ridder.bsky.social•2 days ago

Where are the posts from Democrat current/former politicians?

One wonders why former presidents shouldn't be breaking with tradition, and speaking up about what's happening?

july2022.bsky.social•3 days ago

Then let’s applaud this guy too.

ehansen.io•2 days ago

I’m all for Dark Pence.

gamemasterpow.bsky.social•3 days ago

It was actually really brave considering how insane and dangerous MAGAs are. JMO

ajmetz76.bsky.social•3 days ago

Agreed

mybits.bsky.social•3 days ago

We have to let the Trump voters who regret their vote return to sense.

ne1970.bsky.social•3 days ago

35% of them will never regret their vote or return to their senses. My brother is one of them. He just told me he’d vote for trump again.

wwyz.bsky.social•2 days ago

nicht zu fassen...verlorene Seelen!! Trump wird die verfassung ändern -und dann gibt es keine Wahlen mehr...dann gibts wohl vermutlich auch einen Bürgerkrieg in Amerika...bei dem Kindermörder Putin natürlich helfend mitmischt...🤮

july2022.bsky.social•3 days ago

The people that are watching Fox News are seeing something different than we are.

gamemasterpow.bsky.social•3 days ago

That’s my Uncle Tom. He is an azzhole just like Trump.

elsie1920.bsky.social•2 days ago

My brother too. He loves him. 😢
By the way, 'Norwegian Wood' is one of my all-time favorite songs. 🥰

ne1970.bsky.social•2 days ago

It’s MY favorite song. I’m that girl he was singing about! ❤️ (I wish!)

mybits.bsky.social•2 days ago

It was the first song with sitar music by the Beatles!

elsie1920.bsky.social•15 hours ago

😄

gpgomez.bsky.social•3 days ago

Agree. The dude almost got killed for upholding the election, so he knows it's risky. There are all kinds of things in the past I'd love to kick him for, but I'm not going to kick him for doing the right thing!

gamemasterpow.bsky.social•3 days ago

And my non violent just brainwashed MAGA mom and her church crew adore him. So maybe this will help with the brainwashing.

gpgomez.bsky.social•3 days ago

Exactly. Pence has weight with some evangelicals. We need all the help we can get to turn this tide.

judinthepines.bsky.social•3 days ago

Because that mutherfukker Pence congratulated Trump, when even his wife had bigger balls not giving donald the satisfaction of her acknowledgment.

gpgomez.bsky.social•3 days ago

You're why we lose

judinthepines.bsky.social•3 days ago

We lose because Americans are weak cowards who love to blame anyone but themselves. Pence has always been a coward when it counted the most for him to grow a pair.

trruhnke.bsky.social•3 days ago

Except for that one time when he said he would tally the electoral votes as certified. Listen, no one is proposing throwing the guy a parade. Pence greeted Orange Julius, as that is what a former principal officer should do. His wife spoke for the Pence family that day.

judinthepines.bsky.social•3 days ago

I’m not against all Republicans. I just don’t trust that white flag of surrender guy, Pence. For God sake; trump gave out the order to have him killed on January 6.

ajmetz76.bsky.social•3 days ago

Respectfully I disagree, this thinking keeps us divided forever .. and we only have true power as united… if we don’t offer a bridge when people finally do the right thing, they will not do the right thing again..natural consequences facilitate growth..

judinthepines.bsky.social•3 days ago

You make it sound like it’s not too late. Pence was a grade A Trump enabler and bent a knee at Carter’s funeral! Our government is breaking apart and our standing in the world is worthless. Like Humpty Dumpty. We can’t bring it back together again.

gpgomez.bsky.social•3 days ago

Well, gee, I guess we should just give up then & accept that our razor thin minority in Congress is forever. Why even try to turn the tide. Let's spit at anyone who shows a sign of changing their mind and supporting the right thing, because we are fated to wallow in defeat forever.

gpgomez.bsky.social•3 days ago

This seems so extremely obvious to me. Especially given that the nation is so closely divided. All we really need is a small handful of Republican reps doing what Pence is doing now to turn the tide. Why would we shoot Pence down for doing what we need some GOPers to do?

ajmetz76.bsky.social•3 days ago

You are spot on !!! As far as I see it, the past no longer matters… now that they truly see how dangerous this is, they help us fight .. better later than never and we will need republicans to join us to do anything about this … just my two cents 😬💙

judinthepines.bsky.social•3 days ago

Pence will never be in that camp. He’s an opportunistic quisling. I don’t feel that way about all Republicans. And I understand we will need them. But Pence is NOT one of them.

parisdog.bsky.social•3 days ago

but it matters now, too.
we screamed for these folks to grow a spine and when they do you want to cut them off at the knees?

judinthepines.bsky.social•3 days ago

It’s really too late. Trump and company are breaking everything. Our way of life and our standing in the world. You think pence gives a good godamn about what’s happening to our government. I’m 100% certain that he doesn’t.

ne1970.bsky.social•3 days ago

IDK. Maybe it would have had some impact to have stood for the truth when he was VP rather than waiting until now. Maybe he could have made a difference.

jenneferparker.bsky.social•3 days ago

So we should just forgive McConnell too? I welcome them speaking out, we need all hands on deck. But absent the slightest acknowledgement of their responsibility for this catastrophe.... Nah.

retiredlibn123.bsky.social•2 days ago

Pence was a sycophantic toadie as a VP......BUT ppl can have their eyes opened & can change.
It doesn't mean I would ever vote for Pence for Prez but I would welcome him into the fold as speaking for Truth, angst tRUMP & Putin, and FOR the Ukrainians who. were. attacked.

kroqueteer.bsky.social•2 days ago

Yes. Rather than judging a statement by the person making it, perhaps we should judge it by its content.

fataldiscord.bsky.social•3 days ago

Yes yes yes!

sattelliteoflove.bsky.social•3 days ago

some people have gotten used to yelling at responsible people (or irresponsible people who are doing a responsible act), as they cant or havent exercized control over irresponsible people behaving irresponsible (as i figure)

alexbb.bsky.social•3 days ago

If at least a quarter of Republicans did what Pence is doing now - we'd not be in this mess

gpgomez.bsky.social•3 days ago

Exactly. Honestly, Even a small handful of Republicans willing to do this could turn the tide given how close the margins are. Why the hell would we shoot down someone who might help lead the way for GOP reps to follow?

It's so dumb.

harryfabian.bsky.social•2 days ago

Seems many would rather eschew new allies to maintain "purity" and lose than gain imperfect new allies and succeed. I want to succeed.

sybilltrelawney.bsky.social•2 days ago

I agree. What are we all doing if we’re not trying to change people’s minds? Pence is pretty unpopular in MAGAland but maybe he’s the beginning of a trend. We have to hope so.

berribaker.bsky.social•3 days ago

I don’t like him but he is showing more courage in speaking out clearly than the rest of the GOP. No one needs to be told to be quiet right now.

davidcorbett.bsky.social•2 days ago

SMUG AS A BUG IN A RUG.

Wait ...

mead6520.bsky.social•2 days ago

Agreed. If someone is doing the right thing, it is a good thing. Period. The whole purity test thing doesn’t apply when we are where we are. (In fact, I could argue that this type of crap has contributed to why we’re here.)

silverbirds.bsky.social•2 days ago

I agree , he said it very publicly , and hopefully others will follow suit , as they should .

I

melanierestall1.bsky.social•1 day ago

Exactly. It’s deeply hypocritical to both want tRUmp supporters to wake up, get brave, and spread the word to maga voters how they’ve been conned but then bash same said people when they do so.

prosselizabeth.bsky.social•2 days ago

You said it, it makes him feel smug. He thinks many agree with him, so he feels the power.

talleststone.bsky.social•3 days ago

What good does it do?

lbluth.bsky.social•3 days ago

I have nothing in common with Pence in any way nor do I like him but anyone calling this insane shit out is helpful. I don't care who it is if they are speaking up for a just cause. People speaking out matters.

cmountfort.bsky.social•2 days ago

You only hate it because it's dumb and self-defeating. The ONLY way out this catastrophe is a Republican majority abandoning Trump. So, yes, let's get off our high horses on what Pence was and probably still is, because he's also the thing we need right now.

shawnwebster69.bsky.social•2 days ago

Exactly. If he finally got a backbone let him use it.

thelly1924.bsky.social•3 days ago

👏 👏 👏

mommieod24.bsky.social•3 days ago

I have to agree. Like most of us on here, I wasn't a fan of Pence and his lap dog presence during the first term. However, he redeemed himself somewhat by certifying the 2020 election and now by speaking out on Ukraine. This is an existential war against a tyrant. We need all the allies we can get.

blueblueamber.bsky.social•3 days ago

I'm fully on the enemy of my enemy is my friend team when it comes to the felon in chief. Better late than never and he had to learn it the hard way, so I'm perfectly fine sorting out differences when we're not in an existential crisis.

brutallyrandom.bsky.social•3 days ago

We have to give people the off-ramp back to reality. Agreed

ajmetz76.bsky.social•3 days ago

Absolutely 💯

lfillingham.bsky.social•3 days ago

We don't have to give Pence props for anything else, just this thing, this one is important, and actually brave.
The only reason to reject it is if you are on Putin's side.

brutallyrandom.bsky.social•3 days ago

Hindsight is 20/20 - I have to give him credit for eventually coming around on J6

JD Vance wouldn’t have

Come to think of it - JD Vance probably won’t

brutallyrandom.bsky.social•2 days ago

Nah. He definitely won’t.

mybits.bsky.social•3 days ago

Pence should have said a lot of things earlier, but better late than never!

dmetrikepi.bsky.social•2 days ago

Because Pence failed to notify, and that is it's own treason against us.

mrmicawber.bsky.social•3 days ago

Pence’s comments were very significant,
like a double rainbow or a unicorn:
a Republican speaking a non-lie.
As rare as a diamond in a cesspool,
as special and as transient as a snowflake…

ashesdaisydally.bsky.social•3 days ago

There's been lots of odd takes on Pence's comment. Many seem to forget this isn't the first time he has done the right thing, J6 and the testimonies since. He blew up his own career over that. I'm definitely not a fan of his views, but to shun him based on which "side" he is on divides us further.

starelf555.bsky.social•2 days ago

I agree that it would have been nice if he'd managed to locate his backbone before now, but we've got to take what we can get, & hope some of the others might accidentally grow a pair & follow suit.

egyptttt.bsky.social•3 days ago

F**king this, a million times.
Like those people whining that we shouldn't have acknowledged Liz Cheney's guts in taking on Trump because (shocker) a lot of her takes don't align with ours.
'The enemy of my enemy is my friend' has never been closer to being true. Welcome defectors with open arms.

tempvsfvgit76.bsky.social•3 days ago

Agreed. Everything is grey these days. Not black and white.

tashstewart.bsky.social•2 days ago

I agree. People are saying Pence has already lost their confidence, but in anyone who has been radicalised (and, yes, I consider the MAGAsphere radicalised), you need can’t just shun them when they start to deradicalise. I’m not saying forgive and forget, but if other republicans see someone on 1/

tashstewart.bsky.social•2 days ago

their side start to speak out, it might inspire others to follow suit. No one wants to be the first, no one likes to rock the boat, but right now, any former or current high ranking republican who speaks out is putting themselves in danger. Don’t make them question their decision to put themselves2/

tashstewart.bsky.social•2 days ago

in the firing line. They are likely going to be the ones that have the impact. The far-right don’t care what some ‘commie democrat’ thinks but a voice of one of their own (or formerly at least) - they may actually be able to get through to them. 3/

truebleu.bsky.social•3 days ago

I agree. Every voice of opposition is a good voice. And we should be grateful.

xwall1.bsky.social•3 days ago

capoirier13.bsky.social•3 days ago

Mother must have okayed his response

harpalyce-wilde.bsky.social•3 days ago

Dunno... if I had to choose between them, I'd pick the guy who had at least one shred of decency left, even if he's kind of a horrible person too...

jennicle1.bsky.social•3 days ago

Pence was also the ONLY republican who stood up during the insurrection to certify the votes for Biden/America.

nnicola.bsky.social•3 days ago

Absolutely right.
Not a huge fan of Pence because of his fealty to Trump while he was his VP. However, Pence made the right move on Jan 6th, did not support Trump in 24, and called him out on Ukraine. When someone comes over to your side on an important issue, you welcome them. That’s politics 101.

ssimms.bsky.social•2 days ago

If someone has been on the wrong side of history and decides to walk across to the right (correct) side, I think we should welcome them. Their joining us makes us stronger.

southernjib.bsky.social•2 days ago

How about posting about THIS

marknothaft.bsky.social•3 days ago

I agree with this and other comments in here. Think it shows how dire the situation is when the former VP comes forward, no doubt traumatized by echoes of Jan. 6. Yes, he and others should have showed courage earlier, like John McCain's thumbs down gesture, but it's welcomed now for sure. 👍

terrydresbach.bsky.social•14 hours ago

And neither smugness nor nitpicking sentence structure are really anywhere near political action.
People seem to believe it is.

yappydagger.bsky.social•3 days ago

I agree

silverhorseman.bsky.social•2 days ago

Pence thought he could work with Trump.
He was wrong.
He knows it.
Lets welcome him, we need all the help we can get.

skykerry.bsky.social•3 days ago

Bc Mike Pence is a total disgrace & a dipshit

uvunicorn.bsky.social•2 days ago

Pence's words will not change anyone's mind. If anything, he will just get assassinated and Trump's followers will cheer. We are beyond the point of reason for most of these people.. Optimistic to think that Pence will change anyone's mind, though.

gpgomez.bsky.social•3 days ago

If we actually give a damn about Ukraine and think Putin is an enemy, we should welcome all the allies we can get, and especially Republican ones who might have some influence.

To do otherwise is counterproductive.

ajmetz76.bsky.social•3 days ago

carlagmail.bsky.social•2 days ago

💯

equinas.bsky.social•3 days ago

To save democracy we need everybody in our tent who wants to enter.

anr1211.bsky.social•3 days ago

Feeling smug is a big reason why a lot of people post on social media. It's stupid, and part of the reason we are where we are today.

leoobannon.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Agree 100%.

ali-forever1995.bsky.social•2 days ago

Good!

ethanmezoff.bsky.social•3 days ago

Totally agree. And as so many have already commented, here and otherwise, we have to create an environment that welcomes back the incredibly important minority of MAGA that will return to favoring truth/fact over conspiracy and lies. Give them an off-ramp from the crazy express.

tombucsfan.bsky.social•2 days ago

I guess in a world governed by Trump zombies, a few vegans are necessary.

elsie1920.bsky.social•2 days ago

Well said.

ksmithmi.bsky.social•3 days ago

Pence has been more publicly anti-Trump than loads of Democrats...

bobfrost.bsky.social•2 days ago

We might strongly disagree with Pence on his policies but not on his commitment to democracy and the rule of law.

baltrey73.bsky.social•3 days ago

Couldn't agree more. Need all hands on deck to slow this clown down and people are second guessing Mike Pence?

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