I’d ask why we have a whole professional class dedicated to explaining why The Left Has Failed Working People and yet nobody can explain why any sane human with a brain would ever believe Nigel Farage et al will improve public services, nor does anyone try beyond insisting the Russians did it. - ThreadSky

flyingrodent.bsky.social • 6 days ago

I’d ask why we have a whole professional class dedicated to explaining why The Left Has Failed Working People and yet nobody can explain why any sane human with a brain would ever believe Nigel Farage et al will improve public services, nor does anyone try beyond insisting the Russians did it.

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flyingrodent.bsky.social•6 days ago

Fine, people are fucked off and desperate, but if this country’s most Sensible people got their way 90% of the time for forty odd years and now poor working people are choking to hand their pensions to a fascist goblin, then that takes more explaining than “People don’t like pronouns”, does it not.

path-dependent.bsky.social•6 days ago

And it's not like reform pretend not to be low tax, small state libertarians.

I dunno, but I always remember Lisa McKenzie saying that in the Brexit referendum people were answering the question "do you want things to stay the same or do you want things to be different?"

flyingrodent.bsky.social•6 days ago

Like I say: if we furiously resist change for the better forever - clawing, screaming and biting - then guess what type of change we will get instead.

flyingrodent.bsky.social•6 days ago

A local woman gives John this explanation and he rushes to correct her with the approved version, but for real: does it seem unlikely to you that people forced to compete for increasingly meagre resources can be fairly easily exploited by malicious people deliberately stoking resentment and bigotry?

richardwild.bsky.social•6 days ago

The centrist mind cannot comprehend that, when the status quo offers people nothing, they have nothing to lose. Therefore no reason to choose the status quo. If we want stability, we need people to be invested in the system; i.e. it needs to give them something they value.

richardwild.bsky.social•6 days ago

I mean god, it's not difficult, all you need to do is imagine yourself in someone else's shoes. And yet the entirety of our media commentariat seem utterly incapable of doing this.

flyingrodent.bsky.social•6 days ago

And the difference between John’s view and mine is that he thinks this is all because of Trump, Facebook and maybe the Mail, while I think it’s the result of decades of totally overt malice by the British political and media classes, mostly working hand in hand, in their shared interests.

flyingrodent.bsky.social•6 days ago

If we forever resist change for the better to the death, no matter how disastrously the system crashes over and over, then guess what kind of change we will get instead.

flyingrodent.bsky.social•6 days ago

Like: What did people think was going to happen, if they forcefully rammed the square dong of “Keir Starmer’s changed Labour Party of real conservatism and change” up the round anus that is fifteen years of plummeting living standards? Did we expect gratitude and rewards, a round of polite applause.

itsalladeepend.bsky.social•6 days ago

I continue to be amazed by those utterly convinced Starmer is doing some ingenious 4D Chess plan that will make everything better, you just have to wait 4-5 years.

Meanwhile everyone's getting fucked by energy and water company CEOs and landlords.

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