When someone says any variety of “if you fight back they’ll authoritarian crack down you” I always wonder what they think is going to happen if we don’t fight back
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It's the result of decades of being told "violence is never the answer" as kids. Many of us grew up thinking it was true.
It's not. Violence is *absolutely* an answer to bullies, scumbags, oppressors, and fascists. If things get bad enough, violence might even be our *only* answer.
A better saying would be “Don’t do violence unless you absolutely have to”.
People will have different thresholds for when they consider violence to be necessary, but a fascist takeover is definitely an “absolutely have to” situation. Peaceful protest will not work with them.
Not sure where this is expressed in the prisoner’s dilemma. The prisoner’s dilemma is that solidarity and trust in your compatriots will keep you safe, but if you have any doubts about them at all you have to betray them before they betray you.
This is exactly what I used to think when I was a kid and the abusive aunt I lived with (long story) used to start winding herself up to screaming and hitting. "I'm going to get hit anyway, might as well tell her how horrible she is, I'll at least have the joy of having done that."
I'm sorry you went through that, that's so f*cked up. But yes, unfortunately very reminiscent to the abusive relationship the American people are currently experiencing with this fascist administration.
I will bide my time until fascist and fascist sympathizers choose to turn against their own project, meanwhile I will drink at brunch as a sign of personal resistance . I am a very good and smart person.
I just gotta know: exactly who they're claiming brought the wolf to the door? Because people eho actually cast votes for the dude, aren't the most reliable leaders of resistance.
It seems evident they want us to. There is nothing they would like more than to declare Marshall law. With that said, we really have no choice. We do need to be a bit more clever than the idiots that invaded our government.
Americans need to fight back in different ways. Yes to protests in the streets, but also refuse to obey the stupid orders. Keep those banned books on the shelves. Musk and co are a small unpopular group - they can't police every library. Put grit in the wheels of oppression.
You'll just provoke the fascists, you need to let them walk all over you! Yeh, how did that work out the last time fascism was taking off? If you don't fight back now, then you won't be able to fight back later! You should always fight these authoritarian types!
Exactly. I'd rather die fighting for America than being slaughtered like sheep. It's past time we act, but it's going to take strategy, effort, sacrifice, and risk. We keep waiting for a Dem leader to actually lead the charge...not going to happen. History says that's what's needed.
Just because they said that doesn't mean it's true. The United States' whole history consists of exploiting people, both their own but especially from other nations.
We're literally in a damn if you do, damned if you don't. So, there's no reason not to do something against these fascists, unless you're a doomer and defeatest coward.
There are protests happening and more scheduled. Our democratic leaders are doing all they can. I know for a fact people are making phone calls. If you’re suggesting fighting in the streets, that will only get people hurt or killed…and then they will invoke Martial Law.
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It's not. Violence is *absolutely* an answer to bullies, scumbags, oppressors, and fascists. If things get bad enough, violence might even be our *only* answer.
People will have different thresholds for when they consider violence to be necessary, but a fascist takeover is definitely an “absolutely have to” situation. Peaceful protest will not work with them.
But at a certain point adults should be able to.
I'm pretty sure a study about the prisoner's dillema showed that was an optimal strategy.
They’re just robotically repeating how they’ve been taught to process “freedom.”
are just waiting for other people to do it for them.
Uh, who cares? We’re just going to let them take everything from us and weaken us until we can’t fight back effectively?
your abuser will be abusive."
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Yes, we know.
That's why we call them "abusers".
They'll continue to kill you.
Someone wise once said, never start a fight, but always finish one. ⚔️
What do you suggest?