If I've learned one thing over the years is that nothing sparks opinions™️ between developers as much as timezones 😅 - ThreadSky

driesvints.com • 151 days ago

If I've learned one thing over the years is that nothing sparks opinions™️ between developers as much as timezones 😅

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koossaayy.tn•151 days ago

Save as UTC, Save your life.

regis.peopleos.cloud•151 days ago

Try spaces vs tabs.

amos-family.com•151 days ago

And different jurisdictions making up their own rules about summer time. And, of course, local taxes...

davidbisset.com•151 days ago

Wait till Mars. Moon incoming: https://www.npr.org/2024/04/09/1243405460/space-news-moon-nasa-time-zone-white-house

arter.dev•151 days ago

I never understood these debates tbh. Just store UTC in the DB and live a peaceful life 🧘‍♂️

galahadxvi.bsky.social•151 days ago

Hear hear!

cmorrell.com•151 days ago

Is this your actual take or trolling? 😅

arter.dev•151 days ago

Sincere! UTC as a source of truth in the DB and display localization done by a time zone column on the user table.

travisnorthcutt.com•151 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/travisnorthcutt.com/post/3lckspqpn322l

arter.dev•151 days ago

Oo definitely giving this a read

travisnorthcutt.com•151 days ago

Yeah was really enlightening for me

mateusjunges.com•151 days ago

this one is also a good read https://ssoready.com/blog/engineering/truths-programmers-timezones/

travisnorthcutt.com•151 days ago

Nice, thank you!

cmorrell.com•151 days ago

I guess, in my experience, storing dates and times is only a small fraction of the story (and even there, timezones aren't 100% straightforward).

When is 2am?

There are so many different ways to answer that question, and many of the different answers are correct in different circumstances…

ronnorthrip.bsky.social•151 days ago

That’s where they user’s timezone comes into the equation
Put them together and you’ve got an answer

cmorrell.com•151 days ago

What if the user and the person asking the question are in different timezones?

What if the user is traveling?

What if it's DST?

What if the user and the person asking are in the same UTC offset but one is DST and the other isn't?

...

arter.dev•151 days ago

I'm also wondering if I'm perhaps out of the loop on something 😅

sairahcaz2k.bsky.social•151 days ago

Haha true story. Which camp are you?

driesvints.com•151 days ago

Save everything as UTC

veedee.dev•151 days ago

It scares me that people have multiple opinions on this 🙉

boy-5.bsky.social•151 days ago

My favorite thing about Timezones is on a Microsoft platform where you have to convert UTC to GMT or it throws errors when you try to use the datetime

aineb100.bsky.social•151 days ago

I lost a few hours recently to one system being in PST and another being in UTC when hunting for a bug without any timezone labels.

Sidenote, first read your message as "sparkling onions" for some reason

driesvints.com•151 days ago

😂

ksandvik.bsky.social•151 days ago

Beats tabs or spaces nowadays, or is that issue settled now?

driesvints.com•151 days ago

It’s spaces right?

honzasterba.cz•150 days ago

Do. Not. Start. (Yes)

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