Ok you know what, I went into a game to give myself a +10. 35 faith, 20 scadutree blessing, level 219 was doing about 1100 against Bayle on a headshot with the AoW. A headshot with a heavy jump attack did ~1200.
So fair enough, it is pretty far from is glory days.
I feel like star fist should be higher in S+, they’re too good at scripting bosses in hitless challenges. I think BHF should be S+, it’s already insane but then can also be greased and is available early so it shows up in speedruns a lot. My knowledge is based on PvE only, idk anything about PvP.
i did not order within tiers because it was already taking so long lmao. i mostly made this with normal play in mind and although BHF is really high damage it doesnt feel like cheating the way other S+ weapons do. may do another version ordered within tiers....
they werent on this tier list but most of them would be placed in D and then everything else with 100% physical guard would be ranked higher based on guard boost. except wooden greatshield in B tier and buckler in A
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So fair enough, it is pretty far from is glory days.