I grew up working on a dairy farm (300 head) - from time to time we'd dip the ladle into the chiller to "sip" - and then ONLY if we were really thirsty. It was not a treat and we did not do it on the regular. The farmer's wife made us iced tea that made you thirstier somehow.
Bottom line is we may have been "dumb farmers" (as school mates taunted us) yet we were savvy enough to not drink the raw milk. We shunned most milk offerings - cow milk is for calves and selling to "city folk" - not quenching . I am not anti cow milk or milk products, just telling like it was
Raw milk is amazing - even better straight from the cow! Just remember to place yourself and the cow in a sauna at 100c for the entire duration of your milk consumption
If it wasn't for transmissible disease spreading from them, I'd not care so much. I'm fine if idiots take themselves out, but not when it hurts the rest of us.
I’m genuinely curious, not trying to challenge anyone—I just want to understand the science. I’ve bought raw milk from farms in Germany several times. What’s the main difference between how milk is sold in the U.S. versus raw milk on farms in Germany?
My understanding is that it’s not *completely* untreated, like American raw, but heated to 75* briefly and left unfiltered. (As opposed to Germany’s ‘ESL’ milk which is heated to 126 and filtered.)
I drank a lot of raw milk when I was growing up. However, that being said, the milk needs to come from dairies with strict monitoring for proper sanitation and to be sure they are free of disease. Most pasteurized mild comes from "factory farms", and without processing will make a person sick.
Also of note: I've been learning to make cheese at home. Watching how-to videos, I've seen over and over videos where the narrator says you should find unpasteurized milk to make your cheese with. Then step 1 is to pasteurize it by heating it up 🙄
To be fair to the cheese maker, there are slower ways to pasteurize milk that work well on the individual level but an industrial dairy won’t bother with. I’ve heard the slower methods preserve some flavor but are just as good at killing germs.
Likely because most milk is "ultra" pasteurized and the high heat alters the proteins which can impede curd formation. I have a similar issue when I've tried using ultra pasteurized milk to make yogurt (it never thickened) and I had to go on a scavenger hunt to find "normal" pasteurized milk.
Let them find out. You can only tell a child so many times that the stove is hot. If they’re determined to touch the stove… they’ll learn the hard way.
Have some milk. Learn why it’s pasteurized. (Enjoy the free colon cleanse and best of luck with the constitution saving throw.)
mraik posted about drinking directly from the teet. And the utter cleaning (not sterilization) doesn't get everything which is why milk is pasteurized.
As long as they don’t feed it to their kids. Not fair to punish them, they are innocent. But heck yeah, let Darwin sort them out! Oh, also, they get turned away at the ER!
It's not wrong. Raw milk makes awesome cheese so long as it's aged long enough. Raw milk also allows us to pasteurize it ourselves using the lower, slower method that preserves the quality and taste. Though, I sure as hell ain't gonna drink it raw.
Ok. I *buy* raw milk but I don’t *drink* raw milk. Buy from certified local organic farms (so the money goes to them, no middleman corps) and pasteurise, cool & consume it as per official guidelines (pic). The freshness, taste & texture is something else. Hope people can read beyond “raw”!
Please, please, please drink the raw milk...it's the one stupid medical thing they believe in that (so far) only hurts them. Let them do it! Culling the herd.
When I was a new age yoga hippie it was common knowledge that Pasteurized food had no nutrients. Doctors didn't know anything. Vitamin supplements and naturopaths were expensive necessities...anxiety worry and depression were treated with spiritual ritual https://www.jeraldblackstock.ca/pdf/torture.pdf
If you’re dumb enough to drink raw milk, you deserve everything that happens. So stay out of the fucking ER and pray your stupid ass back to health. That’s my message to the dummies. My tolerance meter has been broken.
Omg. I have a friend whose parents used to push this stuff. They owned a farm and thought it was best to feed her newborn babies and young kids (3) raw milk. I think i stayed friends w her for a few years to tryn help and protect her and her kids. Been about 10 years now. …
Raw milk energy is wild to me. I made mistake of watching a documentary "Earthlings" while breastfeeding my baby, I never looked at milk the same. I was dairy free for three years because of what I saw in that film.
I understand the culinary importance of some dairy, but Christ to just drink it raw?
This could be fun. Get RFK jr, and trump to market it -make it the official drink of maga, then sit back and watch how they’ll spin it. Plus it might distract them from their pillaging?
Ah, wait until the Guillain-Barré syndrome hits you as a result. Great fun! Paralysis that can lead to death when chest (lungs and heart) are paralyzed.
I've seen one person afflicted with this. Lost the use of one leg--he was lucky that was all. The Immunoglobulin used to treat it is $$$$$$$$$$$.
We lived way out in the bush on an ice road without electricity. We had a cow. We drank its milk chilled in a spring. This is why I still have a positive TB test today.
So do TB, Brucella, Campylobacter, Listeria, and Salmonella, etc.
Hey, if you want to consume a raw suspension of cow shit, that's up to you, but if you feed it to your kids you should be done for child abuse (or manslaughter, depending on the result).
I'm so fed up with thick buggers.
That's why I stated 'Farms' and also stated in another post I would not drink raw milk from regular dairies because they cannot be trusted to be hygienic or look after their cows properly.
Having grown up on a farm has given you some better resistance. People raised that way have much better immune systems and less allergies in general. Give the average kid some now and I doubt they'll tolerate it. Actual studies were done on it
I suspect that antibiotic resistance, stressed and unhealthy cows and poor equipment sanitation and the requirement to transport and store milk long distances from farms likely cause bacterial contamination one usually won't get from fresh milk at the farm.
Yes, you are correct. Yes, go down and drink raw milk from some organic store in your local town. Ignore all labels and the CDC. Hell, order two liters. Then 3. Then 4. Keep chugging. Don't stop. Don't let some city-schlicker like me tell you what to do!!!! Chugg it down to spite me.
Enjoy your little bubble of fear and vulnerability where you dread every little thing that could potentially harm you unless the CDC gives you the green light.
While you're doing that I'll be living on and enjoying Earth and all it's wonders and dangers.
Was at my co-op the other day, they sell all the milks from local farms.
A 20 something came in and tried to return his milk jugs dirty, tried to go into the back, and was rude. Just wash ur jugs folks, suck cow tits if you want, but wash them jugs.
Yeah I don't drink milk myself, but if you're going to, best to get it from small producers. That gallon of great value milk was likely produced under horrendous conditions.
I grew up on a farm so I get it, but I also understand why promoting unpasteurized milk can be dangerous to the uninformed.
And like everything, if suppose, everyone wanted to drink raw milk, and demand skyrocketed, I wouldn't trust the capitalist who capitalized on that market to keep things decent. Best not to promote it no?
Pastured milk was a thing before we invented antibiotics.There were ads for home pasturising gear in turn of the 20th century newspapers, specifically to protect pregnant women and infants from listeria.
LOL! We are farmers and have cows, this is not a great idea, to drink the milk yourself you must be sure of the health of the animal and the sterilization of what the milk is collected in and from. Kinda hard when you have 400 cows being milked.
Oh, I told them to stop drinking raw milk. One side of the family objected. Cool! We can have a little science experiment. One family drink raw milk and the other drink pasteurized milk. The pasturerird family all resolved their symptoms within a week.
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Got #h5n1? #dairy does.
Seriously, it gets all over the udders and the rest of the the lower part of the cow. We remember Louis Pasteur for a reason.
The right wing’s only acceptable form of birth control.
Diarrhea, here we go again
My my
Bum-hole is on fire.
Oh I was broken hearted,
And I thought I farted.
Why why ever did I let you go
Diarrhea now I know
Ecoli’s gonna get you
Have some milk. Learn why it’s pasteurized. (Enjoy the free colon cleanse and best of luck with the constitution saving throw.)
Is it maybe going to give me serious illness? Yes.
Does it taste really nice? Yes.
If rich people are allowed to gamble on fugu im allowed to gamble on funny milk.
https://www.jeraldblackstock.ca/pdf/torture.pdf
I understand the culinary importance of some dairy, but Christ to just drink it raw?
You would reach more people, when you add a good description into the Alt-text field.
That is pretty easy, especially, when your image just contain text.
This way, you support visually impaired people and everyone else, who rely on a good filled Alt-text.
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• Listeria monocytogenes
• Salmonella spp.
• Escherichia coli (z. B. EHEC)
• Campylobacter jejuni
• Brucella spp.
• Mycobacterium bovis
• Yersinia enterocolitica
• Staphylococcus aureus
• Coxiella burnetii (rare, Q-fever)
I've seen one person afflicted with this. Lost the use of one leg--he was lucky that was all. The Immunoglobulin used to treat it is $$$$$$$$$$$.
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Hey, if you want to consume a raw suspension of cow shit, that's up to you, but if you feed it to your kids you should be done for child abuse (or manslaughter, depending on the result).
I'm so fed up with thick buggers.
Milk has been consumed for thousands of years in this way. It's healthy if the cow is healthy.
We didn’t have factory farms then.
Before pasteurization, only about half of children born made it to age 15.
The issue you are addressing is the logistics of and health impacts of producing, transporting and storing raw milk for millions of people.
That is not an issue with fresh raw milk itself since if it's consumed relatively quickly its perfectly fine.
I never suggested that people drink stored, commercially produced by regular dairy corporations, raw milk.
I don't think fresh raw milk is bad.
Do you even have cows on your planet...?
Maybe yours secrete poison. Ours don't.
While you're doing that I'll be living on and enjoying Earth and all it's wonders and dangers.
A 20 something came in and tried to return his milk jugs dirty, tried to go into the back, and was rude. Just wash ur jugs folks, suck cow tits if you want, but wash them jugs.
There's a reason dairy producers are allowed a certain percentage of blood (haemolactia) in their product.
I grew up on a farm so I get it, but I also understand why promoting unpasteurized milk can be dangerous to the uninformed.
Raw milk is a fad.
Raw milk however, is famously a source of Tuberculosis too.
Allons enfants de la Patrie
La pasteurisation est arrivé!
"...but just remember to boil it first!"
Oy vey...
You know google works!
Also thank you!