If these are your standards surely it’s the guy who withdrew us from our wars, had the most pro-labor and pro-worker economic policy in living memory, and passed the largest environmental bill in human history? - ThreadSky

whstancil.bsky.social • 66 days ago

If these are your standards surely it’s the guy who withdrew us from our wars, had the most pro-labor and pro-worker economic policy in living memory, and passed the largest environmental bill in human history?

Reposted from Trump U Admittance Office

Being the best American President in the last 50 years is a really fucking low bar for most working class, anti-war, environmentally conscience Americans

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melancholyjaques.bsky.social•66 days ago

But the price of eggs!!!

clousfoor.bsky.social•66 days ago

I didn’t realize that pumping more oil from the earth per year was environmental friendly, I didn’t realize that making and paying for 100,000 tons of bomb to be dropped on children in Gaza was carbon neutral. He’s so green…

tedcruznipples.com•66 days ago

Imagine taking this opportunity to bicker with people needlessly

outerhalf.bsky.social•66 days ago

True. Best president of the the last 80 years is a really fucking low bar, but Biden is the only one who clears it.

zaldarie.bsky.social•66 days ago

I'd feel much more comfortable defending Biden's decent domestic record if it wasn't for his unconditional support of Israel's brutal genocide. That's just so incredibly bad that it casts a shadow over everything else. There's just no defending it, at all. It's not just an oopsie.

rilkefan.bsky.social•66 days ago

"Unconditional support" is a self-serving lie.

smegmaticsmotrich.bsky.social•66 days ago

He unconditionally supports Israel, so seems pretty accurate to me 🤷‍♂️

rilkefan.bsky.social•66 days ago

He doesn't. Trump does. The contrast is so clear you can't help but recognize you're lying.

smegmaticsmotrich.bsky.social•66 days ago

Who is the current president of the United States?

rilkefan.bsky.social•66 days ago

Weird that you don't know and can't understand why it's irrelevant to my argument.

alonlevy.bsky.social•66 days ago

It is, but Western Palestine protesters have convinced themselves that anything short of declaring full sanctions on Israel is unconditional support (meanwhile, Israelis don't at all feel supported by Biden).

smrubinstein.bsky.social•66 days ago

(This is because they view America as their vassal state and adore Trump)

alonlevy.bsky.social•66 days ago

No. Not at all. In fact, early in the war, ca. December 2023, Israelis preferred Biden to Trump in polls. This flipped in early 2024 as Biden's pressure on the IDF on human rights was (unfairly) blamed by Bibists for the lack of subsequent progress in eradicating Hamas in Gaza.

smrubinstein.bsky.social•66 days ago

I put much more stock in this kind of thing than a single outlier poll conducted early in a war, prior to any opportunities for tension to open up between the US and Israel.

alonlevy.bsky.social•66 days ago

Israelis don't view the US as a vassal. WTF. Israelis view the US as a not particularly supportive patron power, and have learned to ask forgiveness (or not to even ask that) rather than permission.

zaldarie.bsky.social•65 days ago

No, that is not what I have convinced myself of. You are putting words in my mouth. What I view as unconditional support is Biden defending them against the UN and the ICC in a way they didn't have to, going around congress to supply weapons, taking no meaningful action to back the 'pressure' up.

zaldarie.bsky.social•65 days ago

What I wish for the Biden admin to do is to actually follow up these 'private concerns' and 'red lines' with action, like no longer directly materially supporting them with the offensive weapons used to commit genocide.

zaldarie.bsky.social•65 days ago

I also reject the notion that I am telling a 'self-serving' lie. I don't even know how that term possibly applies here, maybe I don't quite understand what it means.

alonlevy.bsky.social•65 days ago

That's not unconditional support. That's conditional on things Israel has in fact been doing, slowing down the intensity of the war after the ceasefire of a year ago.

voland66.bsky.social•65 days ago

There is an Arab-led genocide in Sudan. There is an Uyghur genocide in China. There is (hopefully ending) Arab-on-Arab genocide in Syria. But there is no genocide in Israel. There is brutal war but no genocide - Hamas tried but failed.

hauntedtypewriter.bsky.social•66 days ago

It might be an unpopular opinion, but I personally think genocide is bad.

voland66.bsky.social•65 days ago

It is a good thing Biden supported Israel's defense against genocidal Hamas. It is a good thing that despite brutal war there is no genocide there.

toneloaf.bsky.social•66 days ago

And which president didn't actively support or ig ore genocides?

Yes the bar is that low.

toneloaf.bsky.social•66 days ago

Ignore*

joshsteich.bsky.social•65 days ago

Tbf, the left loathed LBJ for Vietnam even though he passed the Civil Rights Act and the Great Society programs

brendowall.bsky.social•66 days ago

He wins that title by a mile if Harris wins the election. But allowing Trump to step back into the White House will be his lasting legacy.

ajm6792.bsky.social•66 days ago

What does “allowing” mean?

voland66.bsky.social•65 days ago

I know, it is tempting to deny responsibility for one's failures but no - Trump's return to the White House isn't Biden's fault, it is our fault, the fault of American voters. Different people have different levels of responsibility but collectively it is us, not Biden, who failed our democracy.

smegmaticsmotrich.bsky.social•66 days ago

He cleared a bar that was barely above the ground…and then he supported a genocide.

gingerlucas.bsky.social•66 days ago

i think attempted murder of random civilians and getting caught in lies you didn't even have to tell is bad (personally)

sandshrew.bsky.social•66 days ago

The full support of genocide in Palestine, for one. Also his large responsibility for dems losing to a fascist is pretty bad. It’s pretty hard to rank presidents considering how much bad is mixed in with the good, but Biden is an evil person for supporting genocide and deserves the worst for it.

burrowcrat.bsky.social•66 days ago

Counterpoint: all the rubble in Gaza.

voland66.bsky.social•65 days ago

Did you expect that Biden could control genocidal Hamas?

burrowcrat.bsky.social•64 days ago

Definitely expect that hed be able to exert some control over his genocidal client, Netanyahu, instead of spending a year signing blank cheques and sending him whatever weapons he wants to reduce Gaza to rubble and destroy an entire society

voland66.bsky.social•64 days ago

There is no genocide in Gaza: Hamas tried (in Israel) but failed.
There is a brutal war but to end it Biden world need control over the side you love - Hamas. Obviously, Biden agent control that side.

defaultuserhandle.bsky.social•66 days ago

Will, the Biden administration never took credit for the Afghanistan withdrawal.

They blamed the Trump administration for it.

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