What we’re experiencing isn’t mass derangement, it’s a crisis of American elites. American elites have become unwilling to make or defend basic factual assertions if they collide with political narratives spread by far-right forces, especially online. - ThreadSky

whstancil.bsky.social • 1 day ago

What we’re experiencing isn’t mass derangement, it’s a crisis of American elites. American elites have become unwilling to make or defend basic factual assertions if they collide with political narratives spread by far-right forces, especially online.

Reposted from Anne Applebaum

"69% of Republican voters say Russia is the aggressor and 83% disapprove of Putin"

www.wsj.com/opinion/most...

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franceslarina.bsky.social•1 day ago

Are there "American" elites any more? Or have they diversified their wealth so that one nation failing won't take them down, too? I now see them as akin to the leaders of private equity companies, always ready to plunder and walk away.

jstrw.bsky.social•1 day ago

What can we do with messaging to counter the absurd and completely false narrative that these right-wing elitists are "blue collar billionaires"?

It shouldn't be hard to paint these smarmy assholes as exactly what they are. And yet...

resist77.bsky.social•1 day ago

It’s that the nation is being run by a frat house party.

princeofdorne.bsky.social•1 day ago

Little of both

coreymutter.bsky.social•1 day ago

I think it's a mutation of the Just World fallacy. If Republican electeds are saying it then it _must_ be reasonable. As though there were some cosmic force guaranteeing it.

gengarro.bsky.social•1 day ago

Republicans are both the protagonists of reality (everything good that happens is because of them) and also completely without agency (everything bad that happens is because someone else failed to stop it)

coffeeaddict.bsky.social•1 day ago

unsponsoredgeek.bsky.social•1 day ago

*Cries in #SamSmith* (Progressive Review vintage 2010)

https://bsky.app/profile/unsponsoredgeek.bsky.social/post/3lg5iobmy422f

andys311.bsky.social•1 day ago

Honestly most republicans I know won’t do or say shit. It’s “Yeah that sucks and everything but it really Biden’s fault”

devbo62.bsky.social•1 day ago

That's an interesting take, but it doesn't square with what happens - for example - on this very app, where plenty of American elites are doing exactly what you say they're unwilling to do.

devbo62.bsky.social•1 day ago

Please don't respond to me from behind your Clint Eastwood photo, movie title, and non-existent bio. You'll only be blocked.

whstancil.bsky.social•1 day ago

Virtually the entire country supports Ukraine over Russia but today our media is full of headlines about how Zelensky may have made a diplomatic error, because that is the only way to avoid the plain assertion that Trump is a fool, a bully, and compromised.

mc2020.bsky.social•1 day ago

https://bsky.app/profile/mc2020.bsky.social/post/3ljd3zfw75c2o

scaypgrayce.bsky.social•1 day ago

Right on.

encomium.bsky.social•1 day ago

Idk, a lot of normies including leftists like the chapo ilk buy that putin was the victim. Russia is the victim is the real victim is common refrain on the right.

allknowingcraig.bsky.social•1 day ago

Putin has been spotted taking his dog for a walk!

steevo57.bsky.social•1 day ago

Yes, similar over in the UK. Centre-left leaning media very sympathetic but right wing focussing on Zelensky not appeasing and normalising Trump/Vance. The key is how leaders of liberal democratic countries around the world respond. Trump needs to feel isolated. He likes to be liked.

pedroyokes.bsky.social•1 day ago

WSJ editorial this morning just baldly asserts that Trump does not want to be responsible for abandoning Ukraine to Putin… despite the fact that this is very much an explicit campaign promise! Hell, JD Vance said he literally doesn’t care what happens to Ukraine!

owlhatch.bsky.social•1 day ago

Meanwhile most of the rest of the world largely states that he is in fact just that even outside of newspapers.

rugrat907.bsky.social•1 day ago

A bully and a loan shark doing a shake down to repay what he perceives is a debt. But aid to fight a dictator shouldn't be conditional on repayment. It certainly wasn't for Biden.

maculous.bsky.social•1 day ago

When are the press going to realize manipulating facts to appease Dingus will not do them any favors?

snowmein.bsky.social•1 day ago

Is the Democratic Party going to endorse the reversal of 80 years of bipartisan foreign policy or not! Are they completely incapable of telling the difference between one of Amy’s precious bipartisan bills and ending an era and leaving the free world?

boxedout.bsky.social•1 day ago

The RW media blitz and MSM acquiescence is gonna change these poll numbers too.

Dark times.

whstancil.bsky.social•1 day ago

Democrats, the press, Republicans - none of them are capable of being honest about what’s happening, for different reasons. None of them feel comfortable asserting what is plainly true and drawing the obvious conclusions from it.

brendanamartin.bsky.social•1 day ago

They want to accommodate power, but how can they do so when that power is in the hands of Nazis and Russians? The dilemma enjoins them to silence about the nature and locus of power.

thetomfrank.bsky.social•1 day ago

Why isn’t all Democratic leadership standing together loudly and fully denouncing every word of that ridiculous Oval Office Performance? Instead I see headlines that
“Republicans Support Trump’s Actions” this morning and CRICKETS from the dems. Again.

cindyo8671.bsky.social•1 day ago

Read The NY Times they have at least 10 articles on that WH meeting yesterday

dickiddaveson.bsky.social•1 day ago

hurrbity durrbity price a groceries

bltbanjo.bsky.social•16 hours ago

clhoffman.bsky.social•1 day ago

This is unfair. Instead of ranting about how they aren’t saying it, I challenge you to spend a whole day doing nothing but posting videos and tweets of dems and dem aligned people calling it what it is.

themountaingoat.bsky.social•1 day ago

They are bought and paid for. Journalists to spread the narrative of the right, dems to suck at fighting back.

dickiddaveson.bsky.social•1 day ago

Hakeem Jeffries rose in New York politics via schmoozing, connections, being patient, being “disciplined”. He thinks those principles will “serve” him now.

Moreover, he’s using Pelosi’s handling of Trump 1.0 as a blueprint. That blueprint needs to be tossed out.

dickiddaveson.bsky.social•1 day ago

Schumer, meanwhile, is obsessed, to the point of insanity really, with “winning back the Senate”.

A fine goal to have. But one which the current emergency renders a lesser priority.

To paraphrase Margaery Tyrell in Game of Thrones (S06E10), “The Senate can WAIT”.

mgocoder.bsky.social•1 day ago

Our pathetic, useless media is the main reason we're in this mess.

hankbutternut.bsky.social•1 day ago

You see, if only Zelensky had worn a suit and tie, we’d have F-22s patrolling the skies over Ukraine and full security guarantees…

coconutlizard.bsky.social•1 day ago

Stupid

davidmckinney59.bsky.social•1 day ago

All who report that propaganda can now be labeled American State Media. No exceptions, once that lie is published.

They are American TASS.

coautonomous.bsky.social•1 day ago

Please indulge in a brief moment of catharsis.

dumbanddrummer.bsky.social•1 day ago

But at the same time, they think that Russian collusion is a hoax. They are oxi morons, every last one of them!

conatonc.bsky.social•1 day ago

So is this the line? 5-10 years ago is too long- “I think I remember things being pretty good under Trump. We didn’t have this inflation problem.” vs. “I pretty clearly remember Russia invading Ukraine 3 years ago and not the other way around and I don’t really know what Trump is talking about.”

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