IT WAS THE YEARS OF FAR-RIGHT ATTACKS AND THE UNWILLINGNESS OF INSTITUTIONS TO DEFEND TRANS PEOPLE. Liberals and Dems didn’t fight so it looked like the consensus was anti-trans so anti-trans ideas became more popular! This isn’t rocket science, Jesus Christ - ThreadSky

whstancil.bsky.social • 1 day ago

IT WAS THE YEARS OF FAR-RIGHT ATTACKS AND THE UNWILLINGNESS OF INSTITUTIONS TO DEFEND TRANS PEOPLE. Liberals and Dems didn’t fight so it looked like the consensus was anti-trans so anti-trans ideas became more popular! This isn’t rocket science, Jesus Christ

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rickgigger.bsky.social•19 hours ago

There is a ton of research demonstrating this and it’s discussed at length in this book.

rickgigger.bsky.social•18 hours ago

If Democrats could just get this one principle through their heads, that attacks can not go unanswered it would change everything.

rickgigger.bsky.social•18 hours ago

I think I’m gonna start reading it again and post the most important parts as I go.

oliver-stearns.bsky.social•1 day ago

I come in good faith and support transpeople, their rights, and disagree with the discriminatory anti-trans bills.

But what is so unreasonable about having women's only sports that exclude trans-people?

There are biological differences between the sexes that transitioning does not eliminate.

col-do-ma-ma-daqua.bsky.social•1 day ago

Sports, and bathrooms, and jails, and shelters, and [...]

Disingenuous. Let's see your timeline.

lylescout.bsky.social•1 day ago

Literally, there is some creep in a right wing institute who goes looking for these wedge issues.

Dems would be idiots to acquiesce to that.

Yet they do.

annenotation.bsky.social•1 day ago

We have to confront that part of it is that gay marriage didn't lead to any of the things that the right-wing threatened, but this sports issue did have -a small number of cases- which made it much easier for the right to rally around. That's why they pull out specific "wounded" figures.

annenotation.bsky.social•1 day ago

They use specific people because, where gay marriage never allowed people to marry turtles, or prevent straight people from marrying, it Did mean that specific individuals lost out in a competitive environment because sports achievement is inherently competitive.

annenotation.bsky.social•1 day ago

They get to fight back against "you said this would never happen" with incredibly rare -but existing- cases of it happening. That's how you get a specific volleyball player at the SOTU or bills named after specific cis players.

annenotation.bsky.social•1 day ago

They can't do this the same way with like, any straight guy who was forced to marry a gay guy or whatever, or a guy who married a dog because it happened zero times.

annenotation.bsky.social•1 day ago

It is a sales problem. It's estimated only about 30 people died from Ford Pintos being rear-ended, but the existence of Lilly Gray made "the Ford Pinto is largely a safe car and actually doesn't explode that often" kind of a rough line for selling pintos.

whstancil.bsky.social•1 day ago

I disagree - I think if there was a culture of saying “there are only a handful of trans athletes and it’s not been a problem” those examples would fall flat. Lots of examples in politics where pointing to specific events like this (even when they ARE representative) fails to move the public

charlottegarden.bsky.social•1 day ago

Yes - and - the Seth Moultons of the world adopting GOP framing of the issue and messaging that most people are transphobic

charlottegarden.bsky.social•1 day ago

This poll was from Oct. '24 (and obviously there is a lot of peril trying to compare two different polling questions, samples, etc., but still...)

diegosacarello.bsky.social•1 day ago

why would they fight when seeing trans women in womens sports is a turn off for most of the country??

corruption47.bsky.social•1 day ago

I think folks are conflating one specific issue (transwomen - who are actually medically transitioned) in women's sports with the horrendous MAGA attack on the very existence of trans individuals. Dems are not trying to "disappear" trans people or take away their rights or their medical care.

crazytalk.bsky.social•1 day ago

Have opinions on trans in general shifted that much, or did the GOP just genuinely hit on a couple trans issues that the normal person today does sort of agree with them about?

AFAIK support for overt discrimination is still unpopular.

whstancil.bsky.social•1 day ago

Gay marriage didn’t just magically become more popular. Many right-wing institutions stopped fighting against it because they felt uncomfortably like redneck bigots when they did, so public opposition collapsed. It wasn’t the public magically following the arrow of progress

fyodor.bsky.social•1 day ago

Major media institutions documented the organized anti trans campaigns by Rufo at all and now everyone pretends like it's just people's natural inclinations.

jarekfa.bsky.social•1 day ago

They didn't just document it, they advanced it as foot soldiers. Fuckin getting a push notice on this Mike Powell article which could only cite a 10 year old blog post to support its thesis outside of discrete medical clinician contexts where such broader language becomes necessary.

jarekfa.bsky.social•1 day ago

Like what is the point of this article other than trans people exist. Certain doctors need to use certain terms to make sure they are literally able to get such persons the medical treatment they require. It's not national news. Its whole point is to ostracize trans people further. Hate him so much.

jarekfa.bsky.social•1 day ago

What I really hate is how they abandoned all their journalistic principles in service of this witch hunt. The premise underlying their entire campaign is that there's something inherently wrong with trans. It's bad to be one. They force us to change. They burden us. They're coming for your kids.

djparticle.com•1 day ago

I never understood the term “chestfeeding”. I mean, regardless of gender, that part of the body is still a breast. 🤷🏻‍♀️

djparticle.com•1 day ago

In addition, there are also rare instances of cis men breastfeeding, so changing that term just seems unnecessary.

dpkilbride.bsky.social•1 day ago

This isn’t about defending trans people. Men who transition to women just should not be able to compete in women’s sports. There’s a reason why women athletes agree on this! There’s a way to defend trans equality without giving conservatives this easy win.

spencerwindes.bsky.social•1 day ago

Unfortunately, the gay marriage consensus is now falling apart due to a radicalized fascist GOP.

ponsterm.bsky.social•1 day ago

But gay marriage didn't become more popular because of Democratic leadership. It became more popular because of television and because lots of Americans know lots of gay people.

jjinandtonic.bsky.social•1 day ago

The arc of history doesnt just bend towards justice, it is bent towards it

whstancil.bsky.social•1 day ago

Right-wing activists felt the consensus shifting against them, they knew the consensus was that their views were bigoted, which is why they fought tooth and nail to control media forums that have cultural influence. And Dems and liberals just… didn’t fight back, really. They basically didn’t respond

houska.bsky.social•1 day ago

And still the end result is that everyone thinks Democrats were constantly talking about trans issues! They might as well have actually done so!

thebsnod.bsky.social•1 day ago

This kills me. Living in MAGAland, I've heard so many people say they don't care how others identify, they just don't want it "shoved down their throats." When I say that that only happens from the anti-trans side, they either shrug and change the subject or move the goalposts. It's infuriating.

wyrmwithwhy.bsky.social•9 hours ago

I don't think the "not fighting back" part is accurate. For the past decade, content platforms and publishers have been incredibly resistant to removing right-wrong ideological propaganda.

wyrmwithwhy.bsky.social•9 hours ago

Then algorithmically served content became the norm, the demands for moderation died down because people realized these companies were never going to give us insight into their algorithms, and conservatives successfully jammed the conversation by saying they were being censored. We've given up NOW.

bluebird4.bsky.social•1 day ago

People started coming out, and everyone else discovered that a significant number of their close relatives and friends were LGBT.

michaelander45.bsky.social•1 day ago

Publlic opposition that I must unfortunately note has started to un-collapse of late 😬

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