Oh, yeah no, I just mean, there was a specific person online who coined the term before it became a self label in our current internet. It wasn't that long ago, either, less than 20 years, and I frequently, idly, wonder how she wound up, or her reaction to that term's mainstreaming.
afair, she was just a sad lesbian who kept fumbling, I don't recall her being any sorta monster about it. I guess one could call it a type of entitlement, being sad about being an incel online, but as I recall, it was a lot more benign than ANYTHING from the 4chreddawful internet grossboy continuum.
As I recall, it started out as a meetup for introverted lonely people, right? And the ones who were single because they were simply a bit shy quickly hooked up, leaving only those who were single for... other reasons
I'm remembering something similar, something like it was more about the inability to find a partner in the lgbt+ scene because it was naturally a minority group.
Then these idiots show up, take a look at their dating life, and pull a Principal Skinner saying that it's society that's wrong.
They're adjacent politically more often than not. But an incel could hypothetically conclude a different distribution of wealth and land than the 1% oligarchs siphoning off everything might make them a more eligible bachelor. Note the popularity of Andrew Yang's UBI pitch to the 4chan crowd in 2020.
To be an incel is to refuse to change and make your own life harder. Sucks to go down a path where everything is someone else fault but the individual. At what point do they not see themselves as the common denominator.
There's an online recruitment / radicalization aspect of it as well that's easy to overlook.
Once you have assholes online convincing folks that one of the reasons they're not getting the sex they're 'owed' is due to jaw shape, welp, it's evolved into something beyond just lack of intimate contact.
Incel at this point is completely different from it's original meaning of just "involuntarily celibate"
Incel is a mindset/culture of toxic ideals. Much further from just "not getting laid"
And to pile further on this there's the whole power imbalance / weirdness involved where if it was really about sex there's, like, avenues to fix that. With zero shame in my view!
But it's all about punishing and taking what you've deluded yourself into thinking you're owed w zero self reflection.
There’s this awful culture where society shames make virginity well into adulthood that’s part of the problem. I just wish there were more people out there like me where they don’t have much… “experience”, but after a while stopped caring and just realized there’s some stuff in life better than sex.
They made a whole film about that! I'm only half joking here too. The antagonist of the film is Andy's own shame leading him to his initial isolation and self-doubt despite being a kind, intelligent, and interesting person otherwise.
Absolutely. And with soooooo many right-tubers these days, I feel like so many teenager boys are sucked into the right-wing radicalization machine before even they get a chance to think by themselves.
I'm really, really glad that I grew up in the early years of this century, I think it was easier
Yeah there's a certain sense of 'there but for the grace of [whatever) go I' when I look back at my high school and college years.
It's all snakeoil that you can draw a line from manosphere grifters to idiots talking about The Game to some wild west dude telling you to use radium for extra pep.
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For me, Redpillers, are precursors of the Incels
Incels are freaks.
And not untrue afaik
I wonder if she ever stopped being an incel.
Hope they’re better now
Then these idiots show up, take a look at their dating life, and pull a Principal Skinner saying that it's society that's wrong.
Once you have assholes online convincing folks that one of the reasons they're not getting the sex they're 'owed' is due to jaw shape, welp, it's evolved into something beyond just lack of intimate contact.
Incel is a mindset/culture of toxic ideals. Much further from just "not getting laid"
But it's all about punishing and taking what you've deluded yourself into thinking you're owed w zero self reflection.
I'm really, really glad that I grew up in the early years of this century, I think it was easier
It's all snakeoil that you can draw a line from manosphere grifters to idiots talking about The Game to some wild west dude telling you to use radium for extra pep.