You should care though because the livelihood of many elderly people relies on it. That isn't to say we need to maintain it forever. We need an alternative. But right now it is vital for a good chunk of old people to live.
Well according to the way elderly people vote, they don't give a shit about anyone but themselves so why should anyone else give a shit about them?
Perhaps if they voted less selfishly I'd care about that demographic again.
To be clear. I support early retirement at 60. And pensions.
I don't find this convincing. In the same way that I care about the life of a Palestinian despite them possibly hating LGBTQ folk, I care about people who may have voted conservative because their life still matters. I don't find it useful to try to fuck over red voters who got duped
I didn't say I want them fucked over. I said I don't care. Obviously 43% of elderly people who didn't vote for Trump will also be hurt by these policies and the overall economic catastrophe of everything becoming exponentially more expensive because of his idiotic tariffs.
And the "Palestinians hate gay people" thing is western media disinformation. It was only ever pink washing of a genocide to try and show western liberals "see it's ok to kill these animals they hate gay people".
Like saying Americans hate gay people and using the Pulse nightclub as proof.
But I get where you're coming from.
We should all have more empathy.
But I am fucking out for the over 65 crowd here. I just am. One day that will be me. And I'll be an old angry leftist if I'm even still alive. They exist. And they have absolutely no say in anything in this country, kudos 2 them
As for if the average Palestinian person "hates gay people" I wouldn't assume they do, but I really don't know. But from a top down perspective there's inherent, systemic persecution built in under Islam
Tbf, Islamic beliefs typically including condemning homosexuality and other LGBTQIA+ groups at least as much as many evangelical christian groups and is illegal in most muslim nations such as Saudi Arabia. In Palestine it's illegal in Gaza but decriminalized on the West Bank. So there is that
Comparing the loss of pensions by boomers to what's happening in Palestine is fucking tone-deaf my guy. They're not remotely close to the same and frankly you should be ashamed for making the comparison. Be better
I'm just finding it hard lately to have empathy for the 65 and older crowd for which they get medicare and medicaid and social security and retirement and pensions and discounts on fucking everything, oh and they literally have all the wealth.
What does everyone else get?
Yeah, you get it. That's the same feeling I have. Why should we care about them when they actively made things worse for the generations that came after? Let them suffer the consequences of their own decisions and voting for a change instead of younger people suffering for them.
With respect, the elderly and those approaching it in this country have primarily not given a single fuck about the generations after them. Look at housing, the climate, etc. By the time it really sets in it's not the elderly that will hurt it's people in their 60s now and I don't care
I agree with you mostly. The boomer generation massively screwed over America. But the working class people who are living off a pension are not the same people who fucked over our current society.
You can't just give them a pass because they weren't holding the pen that gave the orders. They're the ones who gave the signers the pen in the first place. They're the ones holding jobs 10 years too long removing mobility and growth for young people. They own all the houses. etc.
Yes, they are. Remember that those people that did all that damage were elected by those people. Look at Reagan, George HW, arguably Clinton, W, now Trump, largely voted in by older people specifically white people. Policies supported by those age groups. They hold some responsibility
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Perhaps if they voted less selfishly I'd care about that demographic again.
To be clear. I support early retirement at 60. And pensions.
Like saying Americans hate gay people and using the Pulse nightclub as proof.
We should all have more empathy.
But I am fucking out for the over 65 crowd here. I just am. One day that will be me. And I'll be an old angry leftist if I'm even still alive. They exist. And they have absolutely no say in anything in this country, kudos 2 them
What does everyone else get?
Shit on.