My issue with AI is 1) for me, it malfunctions more often than any new technology of my lifetime and 2) the biggest proponents *clearly* hold it as a religious belief (This is the Second Coming, this will usher in a utopia, the unprepared will be Left Behind, so give us all the money) - ThreadSky

jasonkpargin.bsky.social • 39 days ago

My issue with AI is 1) for me, it malfunctions more often than any new technology of my lifetime and 2) the biggest proponents *clearly* hold it as a religious belief (This is the Second Coming, this will usher in a utopia, the unprepared will be Left Behind, so give us all the money)

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andrewlindsey.bsky.social•39 days ago

With 1, the big crux will be when the rate of malfunction/error is consistently less than ours. As for 2, fans/fanatics will always develop; but then so will their opposite in people who are as irrationally opposed against the same thing.

l-p-h.bsky.social•39 days ago

Remember when Nvidia announced they would offer a revolutionary Supercomputer for the home? It was all just a ruse to halt the tumble of their shares...

tbg.bz•39 days ago

It often seems like its greatest skill is verbosity, which usually isn't all that helpful.

visiblexela.bsky.social•39 days ago

You're right about these things, but I do wonder a little bit if "powering it requires putting countless artists as well as the enitre rainforest in a food processor" might still be a larger concern

erichwanh.bsky.social•39 days ago

I have been watching the world burn for the stupidest fucking reasons.

Any time I see anything created by AI, I just think... THAT? Was THAT worth it? All the absolute waste, and you make THAT?

alextrusk007.bsky.social•39 days ago

I think the tech oligarchs are out of ideas for new products.

AI is the only thing they have right now.

parva.bsky.social•39 days ago

vaxxed????

borkpool.bsky.social•39 days ago

It the enshitification of everything it touches for me. I don't want it everywhere. I can see there may be perfect uses for it in certain spaces, but putting it in everything seems foolish AF

quazi1324.bsky.social•39 days ago

Some tech guys, like everyone, are scared of their own mortality, but they believe we are on the cusp of defeating death and living forever. The metaverse, Ai, and digital ownership zealotry all make more sense when viewed as a religion. They are rushing to build capitalist heaven before they die.

elric-mtl.bsky.social•39 days ago

"Malfunction" and "religious beliefs" have been the 2 mammals of VC funding in tech for the past 30 years.

erichwanh.bsky.social•38 days ago

I think I'm going to define the current state of America as "Religious Malfunction".

Good band name.

nuggetbuddy.bsky.social•38 days ago

To both of those, it's just still new. We're pulling the cake out of the oven and it's still just goopy batter. Problem is that'll most likely spoil what it could have been.

sto66.bsky.social•39 days ago

Also, AI has a very big problem that none of the proponents like to talk about: recursion. This is where the models eat their own data and don't know it, and is already happening more and more as AI results flood the internet (it's why each new version of ChatGpt seems stupider in some ways)

sto66.bsky.social•39 days ago

AI writes code the same way it does art: extremely derivatively. The current tools (copilot, chatgpt etc) are really good at writing boilerplate gunk for you and saving you time. They're really bad at writing correct algorithms, especially if humans tend to get that algorithm wrong the first time.

sto66.bsky.social•39 days ago

As a software engineer, I've seen a lot of bold claims that AI is going to replace most engineers in the next few years. This is, at best, a very optimistic lie.

scottesterly.bsky.social•38 days ago

What ai platform or program are you referring to?

edmartin.bsky.social•39 days ago

Its utility caps out at "glorified spellcheck and find/replace rolled into one". Not really worth the melted glaciers and theft.

enviroaggie.bsky.social•39 days ago

As I understand it it does have some utility in specific tasks, especially medical ones, but the way is going to Solve All Our Problems is ridiculous.

Also, in all of these tech utopias they all describe, they don't mention how everyone is going to eat when they don't have jobs.

consort.bsky.social•39 days ago

Medical research, maybe? But they better keep it the hell out of medical practice, diagnosis, treatment plans and etc. I have had to correct enough mistakes made by doctors to treat my condition, to their faces. I dont need them pointing to a black box that makes MORE mistakes to say I'm wrong.

consort.bsky.social•39 days ago

I can remind a doctor that a treatment plan targeted for my colon will not help me when I literally do not have one. I cannot remind the black box knowing the doctors I've dealt with they WILL take the box's word over mine.

enviroaggie.bsky.social•38 days ago

I believe drug discovery.

randyhermanlaw.com•39 days ago

Those things are 100% related. The product doesn't work correctly but the backers are going to go broke if they can't sell it. The religious worship is a way to reconcile that to themselves and to the public.

trampschool.bsky.social•39 days ago

This isn’t much different from the first wave of Internet-ready hardware for home computing.

fifisch.bsky.social•38 days ago

It is vastly different.

trampschool.bsky.social•38 days ago

How so?

discotune.bsky.social•38 days ago

I think the lack of regulation is a bit scary, since everyone gets away with doing whatever they want under the foggy blanket of "proprietary". Less worried about applications of it than the sheer amount of power/resources they all take, though.

janaejean.bsky.social•38 days ago

It can be a step towards a better society but as long as we’re under capitalism that won’t happen bc the grifters gotta grift

camusmtg.bsky.social•39 days ago

If AI was the next great breakthrough for humanity and you couldn’t make money off of it, these people wouldn’t care about it.

erichwanh.bsky.social•39 days ago

I don't want anything "AI" currently offers, yet no one wants to take no for a fucking answer.

elcaptainsteve.bsky.social•38 days ago

AI is being pushed by a lot of tech companies that hope to stay relevant in the future. Tech companies go from big deal to nothing all the time. Haven't seen a Tandy in a while, and I'm guessing in another 10 years we'll be laughing at the concept of Twitter and Facebook.

erichwanh.bsky.social•38 days ago

Twitter, conceptually, is why we're on Bsky currently. As for longevity:

Facebook (Feb '04)
YouTube (Feb '05)
Twitter (March '06)

I don't know what's going to happen tomorrow. All I know is, I don't make bets on what's a MySpace/Vine, and what's a YouTube/Twitch.

elcaptainsteve.bsky.social•38 days ago

I think YouTube and Twitch are a little different, as they're backed by other entities (Google and Amazon) that make enough that they can flounder or not turn a profit for a while and still be kept around. Facebook would be the first one I'd see go as Meta's other projects aren't as profitable.

erichwanh.bsky.social•38 days ago

The thing is, we don't know how getting bought out, or not, will help a platform. YouTube & Twitch getting bought out helped them. Twitter getting bought out... didn't.

MySpace getting bought out did one thing and one thing only: Tom from MySpace is doing all right.

tedvoltolina.bsky.social•39 days ago

It's great for writing performance reviews

hyrosen.bsky.social•38 days ago

Its biggest opponents also hold as a religious belief that it must be stopped before it becomes self-aware and destroys humanity. So also, give us all the money. Both sides of the grift are wrong, except so far as getting all the money works.

erichwanh.bsky.social•38 days ago

... I've seen it all. You're "both sides"-ing an AI grift by saying its opponents do the same thing.

I want off this circus. I want off this fucking world. We're all so massively fucked.

hyrosen.bsky.social•38 days ago

That was the OpenAI grift from the get-go. They were going to be the ones who kept us safe from the malevolent AI devil by creating a benevolent AI good first.

hyrosen.bsky.social•38 days ago

"god"

erichwanh.bsky.social•38 days ago

I apologize for my previous tone, but not how I feel about it.

It's all grift, man. There's no monetized anti-AI stance, because that's also AI grift in a new skin.

I'm not anti-AI just because the quality's bad, but also the unprecedented waste. Folks like me don't want to get paid to feel that.

hyrosen.bsky.social•38 days ago

LLM AI is an incredible advance in technology, but it's being hyped because everything new gets jumped on by grifters who want to monetize the next big thing instead of being awed and wanting to make the new thing as wonderful as possible. And I despise "environmentalists" who seek to block things.

intimidationcrab.bsky.social•39 days ago

AI feels very much like a new and slightly incompetent coworker. They want to do your job, but every time they try they constantly mess up little things that they don't even understand.
They're also learning from you, and if they ever do stop being so incompetent, they might replace you.

andrewlindsey.bsky.social•39 days ago

They also learn faster then us, and will be able to share that experience with other like-systems so they don't have to go through the same learning process. And then there's where their rate of error has become lower than ours in some fields.

intimidationcrab.bsky.social•39 days ago

In some fields, yes. I love the highly specialized cancer diagnosing AI. I hate the general search and summarization AI that lies to me about legal cases because it's easier to make them up than find them.

seanmdavis.bsky.social•39 days ago

They couldn't even get autocorrect right!

toxicdreamland.bsky.social•39 days ago

My biggest problem is that from what I’ve seen it’s mostly used to replace artists instead of doing the mundane and tedious work nobody wants to do.

billyed.bsky.social•38 days ago

I like using ChatGPT to fuck with people who compulsively reply to facebook comments. I feel like I discovered something really weird, where they will endlessly argue with the mirror, basically. You can drive them insane by just copy pasting their replies into a chatbot instructed to insult them. 🤯

averagejane.bsky.social•39 days ago

I feel like such an old lady saying this, but I hate that AI proponents disrespect the reasoning and skill it takes to produce good writing that communicates things that are true, relevant and useful.

chichogp.bsky.social•39 days ago

They also clearly hate artists in general.

erichwanh.bsky.social•39 days ago

"They also clearly hate"

You can stop right there and it's still just as valid.

nerdykris.bsky.social•39 days ago

It really is just the Rapture for Atheists. "Don't worry about the consequences, once we make the AI God it will fix everything and we'll live forever."

There's even deadly sins, like being damned for not working towards creating the AI God.

n0v0w3ls.bsky.social•39 days ago

Sam Altman saying that when they reach AGI, they will just ask it how to make a profit on the trillions of dollars he's asking for in funding 🤡

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