My own (white, upper middle-class) boomer parents bitch about the low payouts on Medicare and Social Security, having built their entire contracting business on the work of undocumented construction workers, we have faced off a thousand times on this since well before Trump and yet - ThreadSky

andreagrimes.bsky.social • 4 days ago

My own (white, upper middle-class) boomer parents bitch about the low payouts on Medicare and Social Security, having built their entire contracting business on the work of undocumented construction workers, we have faced off a thousand times on this since well before Trump and yet

Reposted from Call me Rick.

This is an outright lie.
Undocumented immigrants are not eligible for Medicaid, Medicare or Social Security.
They never have been.
Many do, on the other hand pay, billions into social security and Medicare despite the fact that unless they become citizens they will never see a penny of.

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quine.bsky.social•4 days ago

Suuuuuuuuper stoked* to hear how my local Trump-supporting "renovation" companies are gonna spin this one, what with their own subcontracting of the cheapest companies comprised mostly of (undocumented) immigrants.

* - I am not actually stoked. They're liars and hypocrites. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

petnatwhine.bsky.social•4 days ago

Sorry. You deserve to rest too, and not to be able to with your family is tough. But thank you for keeping the facts straight.

alandraplus3.bsky.social•4 days ago

📌

andreagrimes.bsky.social•4 days ago

my parents blamed it on Obama (and before that, on Whoever Else) and for my whole life it's been a narrative about The Gubmint, i really do not know how you reach people on this kind of thing because believe the fuck out of me, I live my life trying with these people

chasetriesagain.bsky.social•4 days ago

Deal with the same from my parents. No goalpost that can't be moved, no source of factual information that can't be discounted as part of the "liberal agenda."

It's gotten bad for my blood pressure.

andreagrimes.bsky.social•4 days ago

it SUCKS and i'm sorry you're dealing with it! that any of us are!

jefffreyspies.bsky.social•4 days ago

This has been a very difficult issue with my father as well, I’m sorry for you personally but respect the urge to fight.

jacobdplunkett.bsky.social•4 days ago

My dad did something similar. One of the last conversations I ever had with him was a knock-down-drag-out where I attempted to work through his hypocrisy for utilizing cheap undocumented immigrant labor as much as possible while simultaneously voting against all of their interests. Never got thru.

andreagrimes.bsky.social•4 days ago

it gets worse the closer you get to the truth, IME

saff313.bsky.social•4 days ago

I don't have a good relationship with my parents so when I do (rarely) speak to them it's easy for me to just tell them they're wrong.
My Grandparents are the most important people in the world to me. Grandpa is 90. I grew up believing every fox news talking point they regurgitated because

saff313.bsky.social•4 days ago

It was coming from them. Now, I try to make them see sense, I swear they're good, intelligent and kind people but they've been lied to for so long! And I don't have a lot of time left with Grandpa so if I'm honest I do avoid the subject with him more often than not.

saff313.bsky.social•4 days ago

I've lost that battle. And I curse the right wing news apparatus every day for making him so ignorant and so fearful of the world in his last days.

merisand.bsky.social•4 days ago

I identify so much. Mom was TX HHS. Dad's a veteran who needs VA, because Agent Orange gave him Parkinson's. It blew my mind that they voted for Perry while he was trying to screw my mom out of a job & all of her clients (back when he planned to make HHS, like, 3 private call centers). It's 🤷 now.

andreagrimes.bsky.social•4 days ago

ughhghgg. i'm sorry. <3

merisand.bsky.social•4 days ago

I'm sorry you & so many others know this pain! It's so weird & frustrating.

dexanderson.com•4 days ago

my dad worked for the government his entire life and still thinks the government is evil

sarahejoyal.bsky.social•4 days ago

My parents get this way about public school even though my dad worked there for more than 20 years (I agree that the system needs fixing, but not by throwing it away entirely)

dexanderson.com•4 days ago

Yeah my parents were both public school teachers!

kayleitha.bsky.social•4 days ago

My mom's widower is the same way. It's the main reason I haven't kept in touch with him.

He's the kind of guy where you have to put the golf channel on to keep him from forcing everyone to watch Fox News (or probably OANN or whatever now).

andreagrimes.bsky.social•4 days ago

I genuinely think suburban aspirational Whiteness removes otherwise reasonable people from understanding the basics of human interaction and fiscal reason bc they get entirely fixated on their own shit and convinced the grifter has the answer because the grifter says "pay nothing now, benefit later"

andreagrimes.bsky.social•4 days ago

everyone is a temporarily embarrassed billionaire, etc

txintexas.bsky.social•4 days ago

Once went out to a ranch nearby when I was in chamber of commerce. Huge place with its own air strip and exotic animals. Even giraffes! Owner bitched about the government the entire time. Asked what his company did. Road contractor for the State of Texas. SMH

andreagrimes.bsky.social•4 days ago

ghghghhghg

lukerussell.bsky.social•4 days ago

My dad, Vietnam vet, fisherman for a while, structural engineer until forced retirement, and these dumbfucks aren't going to phase out benefits so I get nothing... they're going to break the system so my dad gets nothing.

So when are we getting back this wasted money Elon has found?!?

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