AI will certainly not make it better. One of the biggest drivers of the 83 crash was the enormous amount of shovelware that flooded the market, suffocating both buyers and sellers. We're not talking enough about how GenAI in gaming could make that early 80s flood look like a trickle. - ThreadSky

matpiscatella.bsky.social • 67 days ago

AI will certainly not make it better.

One of the biggest drivers of the 83 crash was the enormous amount of shovelware that flooded the market, suffocating both buyers and sellers.

We're not talking enough about how GenAI in gaming could make that early 80s flood look like a trickle.

Reposted from Lisette Titre-Montgomery

Executives putting Back of the box thinking over creative innovation got us in this mess and creativity is the only thing that will get us out it.

Ai will not fix this industry either...
www.nytimes.com/2024/12/26/a...

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balta666.bsky.social•67 days ago

TBF we already have that with tens of thousands of games released every year

slavesnyder.bsky.social•67 days ago

if shovelware is our biggest upcoming problem with AI, I'm relieved.

matpiscatella.bsky.social•67 days ago

Not the biggest, certainly, but on the list that isn't being discussed. Shrug.

slavesnyder.bsky.social•67 days ago

agree. there always was cheap trash and imitations. but it still was limited to manhours, lazy brains and workbenches.
soon it seems possible to automatically spit out endless clones and mutations of games and other media in no time with no effort, like santa's toy factory overtaken by pavlov's dog

kbabz.bsky.social•67 days ago

-points to the makers of Unpacking trying to get the 10 AI-generated knock-offs out of the eShop to no avail-

marcdachamp.bsky.social•67 days ago

When the AI bubble bursts (and it’s going to happen fast), it’s going to leave a lot of destruction in its wake.

goobypls89.bsky.social•67 days ago

What's even worse about AI is that it's being led by people who have no idea how any of it works, which is why it's in everything now.

As for the industry at large, they basically shot themselves in the foot a decade and a half ago by convincing everyone that graphics were the most important thing.

coocoopuffs.bsky.social•67 days ago

Oh, it's been WAY longer than that. They were talking about "arcade perfect" ports and hyping up (pseudo)polygonal graphics since the early '90s, if not earlier.

The industry has been chasing the graphics dragon from the jump, more or less. It's in the DNA.

goobypls89.bsky.social•67 days ago

Yeah, but at least arcade games in the early 90s were similar enough in power to consoles that you could somewhat get away with them looking the same. Not all the time granted, but they were pretty close. Same goes with a lot of early 3D games. Now, it's become an even bigger problem.

coocoopuffs.bsky.social•67 days ago

Yep.

Being on the bleeding edge was less dangerous when the biggest games were made with a few dozen people in a year or so.

sleepmonkey.bsky.social•66 days ago

AI will drive productivity improvements over time, just not in any of the dumbass places that cryptobros say it will (e.g. not image or code generation). It will be in more controlled, targeted use cases like statistical analysis.

mattdkerr.bsky.social•67 days ago

Chinese knock offs of popular mobile games that confuse consumers on the app store play store etc have been a big issue- now they can work on AI to pump them out?

alanwritesstuff.bsky.social•67 days ago

Even ET on Atari had a commercial that required more human ingenuity than found on some entire GAMES today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7LwjROqsQw

seannorq.bsky.social•67 days ago

I got into quite a discussion with a friend about that idea. Not just video games, who will want to watch endless AI slop content? I already don't have time to play/watch/read all the games/movies/tv/books that interest me

alvinwd.bsky.social•67 days ago

You haven't seen YouTube or tiktok recently, ai slop is king currently, though the bots are creating an uroboros omtgats causing serious user fatigue

statuskwoh.bsky.social•67 days ago

This was already happening. Across most storefronts there is a ton of shovelware and chasing notable names/trends with cheap-fast-follows. Some of the entrenchment to "known good" games and older games dominating is a downstream of this.

statuskwoh.bsky.social•67 days ago

AI certainly won't help, but this flood was already up to our knees and creating challenges across the industry.

zoddy13.bsky.social•67 days ago

Sidenote: I think there are so many things wrong in that article. Most egregious though:

- Meta quest pro and Vision Pro as prohibitive…none are consumer grade vr gaming sets.

-Using Avatar (mediocre reviews) and hellblade 2(niche game) as examples of realistic games struggling.

coocoopuffs.bsky.social•67 days ago

People already hate how samey and safe the industry's output is.

AI will only make it worse.

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