honestly, every senator who just said "I'm a no on the CR" without explicitly and *publicly* specifying they meant both cloture and final passage should be suspect. I know Kim, Gallego, Smith, and Sanders pass the test; who else?
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Today was such a calamity because it proved that Party Leaders are spent. In a lot of ways it’s a Spanish Civil War type scenario. Then the Libs tried to hold their shit together at the last minute (Harris 24) and when they broke it shattered because no one believed a center was possible anymore.
In a scenario where no one has faith in the concept of the center everyone has to go to one edge I think. In Spain it got pretty fucking nutty with the Carlists larping as crusaders and the anarchists doing anarchism for like 8 minutes. People will go to closest aligned force that’ll fight.
he said "I don't get cute with this shit" when asked, so I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt here. that seems like real disdain for Schumer's plan.
It was disgusting. Schumer straight up lied on the floor of the Senate! Unbelievable the rest thought they could con their own voters with a procedural quirk.
I don’t want to be managed by my fucking representatives. I want them to fight. This whole charade was a disgrace. Hate being an NY Dem.
oh, I would also caveat that this offer does not apply to senators up in 2026. Hickenlooper and Warner were clear on cloture because they're two of the three Dem senators with the most reason to fear 2026 (the third being Durbin.)
Coons has been weirdly good so far across the board, I wouldn't mind him getting primaried but I think he's a Norms Believer who's actually willing to fight for those stupid norms which makes him better than a lot of his colleagues.
Fuck Mark Warner in particular. Sub replacement-level Democrat who's spent most of the last 3 months voting for Trump's nominees and talking about how DOGE makes good points.
yeah i really think if they don’t come out and explicitly say that voting yes on cloture was a wrong thing to do we should assume they were jockeying behind the scenes trying to figure out how to avoid being a “yes” while making sure there were enough
It feels like the lead up to the Iraq War where there's an inside-the-beltway consensus that's completely unshakable by those of us on the outside who are screaming that this is a terrible idea.
Right down to the paternalistic idea that they're doing what's best for us and we just don't understand.
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But we had confirmation that he was no on cloture from a spokesman pretty much immediately.
(It is also wild to me that he seems to view the "yes-no" strategy as too cute bullshit like the rest of us)
I think he's trying to figure out what his coalition actually looks like.
I also think the newer senators are more likely to view the procedural shell game negatively.
I don’t want to be managed by my fucking representatives. I want them to fight. This whole charade was a disgrace. Hate being an NY Dem.
Right down to the paternalistic idea that they're doing what's best for us and we just don't understand.