Perhaps VR has taken so long is precisely because every existing technology provider recognizes that they cannot fail to own a piece. Game theory stuff: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_th... - ThreadSky

ianhamilton.net • 36 days ago

Perhaps VR has taken so long is precisely because every existing technology provider recognizes that they cannot fail to own a piece.

Game theory stuff: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_theory

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technobaboo.bsky.social•35 days ago

to put that another way, perhaps vr has taken so long because every tech provider is trying to hoard everything for themselves so lack of collaboration and risk taking ensures they're stuck in the same old patterns forever, trying to replicate how smartphones came to be.

moike.brainfizz.net•35 days ago

I saw the APRANET emerge from the age of the dialup BBSes I used as a child.

I helped build the modern internet in the 90s as the CServs, AOLs, NETCOMs, fought to own it all.

I watched as they all failed.

And now I see the big players in XR making those exact same mistakes.

I'll just wait.

technobaboo.bsky.social•35 days ago

honestly this feels more like when Windows came out and macOS was first created... getting headsets to adopt a good GUI is shockingly difficult and what we have right now is the equivalent of DOS with its fullscreen apps and windows 1.0 with its bad multitasking barely anything supported :p

moike.brainfizz.net•35 days ago

I'd be happy with an open OS on a standardized hardware platform that gives users the option of a few UI prefabs to choose from or the option to build their own UI out of a toolbox full of parts with the ability to code up their own parts and a beautifully maintained stack of documentation.

technobaboo.bsky.social•35 days ago

i have every bit of that in my project except for the standard hardware platform and the docs, am working on the docs though lol

technobaboo.bsky.social•35 days ago

this is the UI for a simple model viewer, reactive declarative like swiftUI and all so it autosaves/loads with intuitive XR native controls, and it makes this little gizmo right here with a nice turntable and grab ring

moike.brainfizz.net•35 days ago

If you ever feel like you'd like to present what you are working on / give a demonstration of your project we'd love to host you at Silicon Valley Virtual Reality as a guest speaker.

Dependent on your proximity to Santa Clara, California of course. We'll get our VR portal set up at some point.

grahamgrah.am•35 days ago

Webxr could be this!
Its been the only stable thing for years :)

technobaboo.bsky.social•35 days ago

webxr is still monotasking and trying to layer it on top of other things will just lead to clutter and the input systems can't handle it either and it cant' be reimplemented for good OS integration easily...

moike.brainfizz.net•35 days ago

But I know, wish in one hand, shit in the other... Honestly, this is why I work in PCVR, my business is based in PCVR, and I constantly cross train in WebXR preparing for the near future for when I -can- potentially move onto a self contained device.

moike.brainfizz.net•35 days ago

Open interoperability, protocols, and standards will always win.

They always do in the end after the smoke clears.

Plan and train for an XR 'browser'. We'll go through a 'Mosaic' 'Netcruiser' 'Big Throbbing N Netscape' era at first, but we'll get there eventually once we figure it out.

technobaboo.bsky.social•35 days ago

i'm more thinking we shouldn't try to replicate the browser, at least not the early stages... why not use WASM + display server type protocols to make something better? :3

shinyquagsire.bowser.gay•35 days ago

easily the worst brainrot in the industry. Like no, Qualcomm, nobody wants to use another minimal-docs Unity interaction plugin with no current-year-version Unity support that also probably only works on Snapdragon, stop trying to make Spaces happen

svanloon.bsky.social•34 days ago

There aren’t any good Virtual Worlds that you can spin up for cheap on your own. Not one!

jamesoloughlin.bsky.social•35 days ago

Reminded frequently there are people whom seem to expect similar evolutionary pace of development as mobile computing. However, XR is more difficult in every way; hw–sw; expectations are high. Partly due whats worn on the face, eyes & perception is so important & hard to get comfortable+compelling.

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