if liberals gave a fuck about genocide they'd have pressured elected dems to stop funding and arming it instead of telling leftists to shut up about it for over a year while thousands of children were being murdered
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"(A two state solution) the only path that ensures Israel remains a secure, Jewish, and democratic state and one that ensures Palestinians can finally realize the freedom, security, and prosperity that they rightly deserve" - Harris
A two state solution only rewards a multidecade long genocide against Palestinians. It's not the 40s anymore. The Jewish people are welcone live in Europe and North America again
or they’d be angrier about the concentration camps our government is sending people to without due process, for that matter. they spin that to blame leftists too! everything the right does is the left’s fault. somehow.
Or like madder about what it going on right now than when we were actually pulling out of the pandemic? It doesn't make sense, and that usually means troll farm.
And crazy how Trump is Obama's fault. I blame republicans and non-voters. Not one Democrat.
If people like you gave a fuck about genocide, you'd be protesting the current administration as vigorously as you protested the prior administration. More vigorously, actually, since this administration is pretty vocal about encouraging Bibi to get rid of every single Palestinian.
Under Biden some rights were taken away in regards to protesting. This includes wearing respirators and campus policies for protests changing. Also, the media isn’t reporting on the protests that are happening. But yeah, it’s all leftists faults huh
like what happened under Obama, Trump also harmed family of mine. I loathe him far more than you liberals will ever fathom and do not ever appreciate y'all calling me uncaring about Palestinians. I do care, I just HATE teams' sports mentalities when both of these parties murder beautiful people.
Many of the unpaid mouthpieces shambling around social media still can't muster even pretending to care about children dying. Some of them actively celebrate it, and taunt leftists about how "even more kids will die now", as if it's some abstract game we lost.
eeeh that's totally understandable, this whole thing was such a mess and these 'don't you dare vote for her' people were everywhere including in canada. white lefty colleagues are starting to avoid me in the hallways now I'm clearly so angry at them and they are so wrong all the time
Why would anyone advise voters to vote Jill Stein, who only ever shows up during presidential elections? Where is she & what is she doing the rest of the time?
Doesn’t her supporters find that strange?
I wonder about some of you, for a moment then I carry on.🙄🥱
So they’re voting with trump on foreign policy? There are bills about building trump hotels on the Gaza strip? I don’t recall seeing that. I do recall trump explicitly calling to remove all the Palestinians from Gaza, and yet we’re STILL talking about dems. Weird…🤔
The goal for Americans: what happens in the middle east stays there, we stay the fuck out of it. And we keep our tax money in America for Americans. Speaking as a Democratic voter.
For the duopoly, it's pure team sports; "when the other side does it it's bad, but when Dems do it it's okay". We gotta figure out something better than that and get it rolling.
The Republicans and Lincoln split from the Whigs when the Whigs were being dog shit. We have to take progressives out of the party or *something* and replace it and make an American Labour party that's for the working class and not this conciliatory "big tent" party
That’s great. No one is saying the Democrats are great, or even good.
Democracy is literally on the line and the left is more concerned with being the 10,000th person to opine on how the Democrats are just the worst than actually winning elections and fostering change.
The elections are how they are. The electorate is fickle as fuck. No one wants to hear this but the electorate elected Biden over Bernie when given the choice.
The only way to affect change is to win elections and work from there.
To win elections you have to appeal to the people that vote.
Isn’t that the fundamental question - should one choose the lesser of two evils? In real life, I personally believe Gaza would have been better off if the lesser evil. In the “ideal” realm…well we are there now aren’t we?
You mean America and Israel’s alliance.
It doesn’t matter who leads either white suprimicist settler colony, they need each other to survive and therefore must fall together.
Yes. But voting for a 3rd party candidate who has no chance of winning in the US is like throwing away your vote or inadvertently support for the bigger of two evils. Allows the voter to take the moral high ground as people are being slaughtered.
In all honesty, why are we rehashing this right now? Liberals aren’t the issue. They largely support Palestinians while like 75% of republicans still back Israel. So maybe we (i.e. leftists) should focus on building an anti-genocide coalition with liberals instead of acting like they’re the problem
Most of them are anti-genocide. Like I said most liberals don’t support Israel. And the rest of them aren’t “pro-genocide” they’re just not really aware of what’s happening. And that’s where coalition building comes in. You educate people and help them understand why they should back your cause
You’re proving my point. You’re assuming the worst of liberals without even talking to them. Polls have consistently shown liberals have a high level of sympathy for Palestinians. Leftists should be using that sympathy to get people more involved. Discounting or insulting them is pointless
Liberals stopped masking the moment it was reported that Covid killed Black and Indigenous people much more than white people. I don’t think ‘assuming the worst’ is happening so much as being aware of reality
I’m sorry but democratic delegates displaying a cease fire banner were beaten with signs by other democratic delegates at the convention and were removed by campaign staff. No liberal said anything about it cuz that got in the way of fan-girling and boss-girling the lib nominee
We all saw what the liberal party thinks of Palestine the last few years. Too many of their voters are fine with it. They can stop supporting genocide any time.
and with the Trump Signal leak they(Liberals) seem more focused on how awful it was that there was a leak(which is actually a good thing) than the fact the leak reveals not just war crimes but an insanely casual attitude about mass murder.
One of the many people (the rest of them civilians) in the apartment building they leveled (which they illegally orchestrated over a commercial messaging app)
"Shitlib"
Yeah u simply dont matter as a human being my guy
You have less value than me in every imaginable way and there will come a time when you're praying to god that the heavily armed fit trained soldiers like me protect little keyboard leftists like you and I doubt I'd bother
both missile striking civilians and dropping bombs without congregational approval are war crimes. killing people en mass is immoral ether way. though from what i gather of the people who where the supposed targets the only reason our government has any beef with them is they defended Palestine.
Got put on a racists list because I wouldn't vote for the black lady cop who loves genocide just like the white corporatist rapist guy (the ice cream one, not the orange one, I know, hard to keep them all straight).
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@chuckschumer.com
Protecting the Israeli war criminal regime is the most fucked up thing you supported, and why you will lose elections. Fuck the Israeli government!
When you say this to people who were already suffering under Biden/Harris, what it sounds like is "how dare you not defend my privilege". It's going to have the exact opposite effect of what you want (unless what you want is to alienate potential allies)
Agree, Gallifreyan.
And to amplify your post, I'd add this 👇:
Biden/Harris (Not Trump) armed & funded Gaza Palestine Genocide for 15+ months until Trump election.
And Biden/Harris Genocide Crimes led to Trump election & Trump Palestine Ethnic Cleansing.
#GenocideJoe #HolocaustHarris #TelAvivTrump
Steven, go back and read my entire post, as you focus only on my Palestine comment and not issues noted on 2nd graphic.
2nd graphic includes many other issues along with Palestine.
In other words, Harris failed on a whole bunch of issues.
Both on Foreign Policy, as well as Domestic Policy Issues.
Do you really think all those Muslim voters in Michigan (for example) just lied about why they were not going to vote for her? Palestine should absolutely be on any informed list of why she lost.
The problem is that they genuinely believe they are the moral majority and are not capable of self reflection. Therefore they seriously think that anyone disagreeing must automatically be in the wrong on a fundamental level and will overall in line. For liberals majority is sacred.
A lot of us do care, but @schumer.senate.gov is a genocide supporter, fascist collaborator, and has shown how entirely ineffectual pressure is when the populace has no recourse.
The Constitution prevents us from holding recall elections if someone betrays the public trust as Schumer himself has.
I absolutely care, and condemn it, but at the same time, I have no recourse for it. I'm one person, and Schumer is intentionally ignoring tens of millions. I'm also living below the poverty line - so I can't actually use money to apply pressure to anyone in power, either. All I can do is condemn it.
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"(A two state solution) the only path that ensures Israel remains a secure, Jewish, and democratic state and one that ensures Palestinians can finally realize the freedom, security, and prosperity that they rightly deserve" - Harris
“Anybody who’s Jewish and loves being Jewish and loves Israel is a fool if they vote for a Democrat" - Trump
Anyway, baby, congratulations on getting exactly what you wanted!
Naybe the real monsters were the AIPAC funded assholes we've been fighting all along?
And crazy how Trump is Obama's fault. I blame republicans and non-voters. Not one Democrat.
Idk how to look at liberals the same
This is not a dis on dems or libs this is supposed to WAKE YOUR ASS UP
In Nazi Germany, socialists and trade unionists were fighting gastapo in the streets at this point.
Everyday US ICE are kidnapping students off the streets, and since liberals don't associate with them they turn away.
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/careless-whispers-how-the-german-public-used-and-abused-the-gestapo-1.2369837
This broken ass binary system is fucked, but don't pretend it isn't what we're dealing with.
Do not consider myself a Democrat, but this shit is unproductive and has ultimately contributed to the installation of a fascist regime.
Doesn’t her supporters find that strange?
I wonder about some of you, for a moment then I carry on.🙄🥱
I dunno but Dems ain't it
Democracy is literally on the line and the left is more concerned with being the 10,000th person to opine on how the Democrats are just the worst than actually winning elections and fostering change.
The only way to affect change is to win elections and work from there.
To win elections you have to appeal to the people that vote.
It’s maddening.
No one supports genocide. No one. Well they might. But no one on this side.
We all want better, but splintering our side ain’t it.
It’s either violent revolution, lesser of two evils, or loss of freedom.
Gotta keep doing the calculus.
At least you can high five your dad about not voting for the Democratic party?
Mine trying to stop a Netanyahu Trump alliance.
It doesn’t matter who leads either white suprimicist settler colony, they need each other to survive and therefore must fall together.
you’ll never get it
you’ve sacrificed all morality at the altar of political power and then your party didn’t even achieve that power
Yeah u simply dont matter as a human being my guy
You have less value than me in every imaginable way and there will come a time when you're praying to god that the heavily armed fit trained soldiers like me protect little keyboard leftists like you and I doubt I'd bother
No doubt in my mind.
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@chuckschumer.com
Protecting the Israeli war criminal regime is the most fucked up thing you supported, and why you will lose elections. Fuck the Israeli government!
And to amplify your post, I'd add this 👇:
Biden/Harris (Not Trump) armed & funded Gaza Palestine Genocide for 15+ months until Trump election.
And Biden/Harris Genocide Crimes led to Trump election & Trump Palestine Ethnic Cleansing.
#GenocideJoe #HolocaustHarris #TelAvivTrump
Most American voters know less about Palestine than we all know about NASCAR
2nd graphic includes many other issues along with Palestine.
In other words, Harris failed on a whole bunch of issues.
Both on Foreign Policy, as well as Domestic Policy Issues.
I agree with your post
Kamala failed for 6 reasons
1) Stupidity of voters
2) Sexism
3) Racism
4) Voter Suppression
5) Musk's money
6) Liberal capitalism
To retain blue wall, she needed to offer workers more than nicer capitalism
Most Americans could not tell you where Palestine is on a map, and if they know anything, it's they've heard they're terrorists
Healthcare, wages, prices, jobs, benefits, schools etc. are what workers care about
"What do you mean, she's not a perfect candidate? How dare you?!"
The Constitution prevents us from holding recall elections if someone betrays the public trust as Schumer himself has.