This is where I drop the fun fact that the PRC has naturalized fewer citizens over the course of their entire existence than the US does in any given month, including during Covid - ThreadSky

abeardedpanda.bsky.social • 100 days ago

This is where I drop the fun fact that the PRC has naturalized fewer citizens over the course of their entire existence than the US does in any given month, including during Covid

Reposted from post malone ergo propter malone

you can tell that China is a better country to live in than the US because of all the Americans trying to immigrate to China

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boomies-n-zoomies.bsky.social•100 days ago

Had to look it up, 1,500 or fewer. Insane.

standard.bsky.social•100 days ago

i greatly appreciate the fact that you refer to them as PRC and not the Chinese

319e17th.bsky.social•100 days ago

It's on account of that Great Wall they built. Many people don't know this.

venomousgoat.bsky.social•100 days ago

I don't know that this *is* a fun fact

That's legitimately fucking crazy though

thebearjieux.bsky.social•100 days ago

China was nice to visit and be a guest there. But I wouldn’t want to live there.

groverhaustenbosch.bsky.social•100 days ago

somehow this fash having a better handle on what china is than your average left-wing chinaboo is about as cursed as the fashy shit this fash is saying

rowyourbot.bsky.social•100 days ago

Maybe people don't think 'what a country is' is entirely due to their shitty government. I assume this is true. Cubans still like Americans and our government currently wants to starve them. Many across the world like America and Americans and OUR government harms THEM directly.

sfaccountant.bsky.social•100 days ago

America's treatment of Cuba is bad but "wants to starve them" is nonsense. Our embargo - which again, I think should be repealed - isn't starving anyone.

rowyourbot.bsky.social•100 days ago

Anyway, my point was they have deep hardship, US directly intends that they do, and they STILL don't hate us. Many people of many nations have this wisdom after our government impacts their lives. Why should we Americans, who rule over so much in the world, have so much, not be as wise?

rowyourbot.bsky.social•100 days ago

What's the point? It's to cause suffering so that the people overthrow their government. Otherwise, why did it not end when the Cold War ended!

flxible.bsky.social•100 days ago

Maybe it's because the Cuban government is the one starving them right now. In fact, Cuban Americans are sending aid to Cuba, and other Western countries have no trade restrictions with Cuba. The Castros are just paranoid and shut down any industry or commerce.

rowyourbot.bsky.social•100 days ago

LOL, the Castros. Cubans were doing better after Obama opened before the US brought the hammer down again. They simply need the embargo to end but don't blame Americans for this, simply hoped Biden would return to the Obama plan which gave them hope for a better life.

rowyourbot.bsky.social•100 days ago

Anyway, Americans are very lucky globally--people who our government has even harmed tend to see past the wrong shit, and appreciate the good things about us. Americans can also show this maturity to people of other nations.

groverhaustenbosch.bsky.social•100 days ago

okay but your bender is orthogonal to the point: fascists love china for what it is--a socially conservative, hyper-capitalist nation-state that brutally crushes liberals and LGBT people--while leftist chinaboos instead stan a country that doesn't actually exist, conflated with their own fantasies

dnlmsstch.bsky.social•100 days ago

Cuba was doing better when Venezuela was sending a lot of aid (they were doing well when the USSR was sending a lot of aid)

rowyourbot.bsky.social•100 days ago

That's also true. But the US has no reason whatsoever to embargo Cuba. It's sadistic and crazy. We have affected millions of people who merely want to live their lives. And something is very wrong in our government that people believe in such a policy.

grumpyrootbeer.bsky.social•100 days ago

I earnestly believe that a not insignificant driver of the rightward lurch in tech in the last decade is tech guys coming away from their efforts to do business in China with the realization that they'd vastly prefer to be doing business under that kind of system, but with guys like them in charge.

boomies-n-zoomies.bsky.social•100 days ago

The draw of every authoritarian system is always thus: “maybe you’ll be the one who gets to wear the boot”.

groverhaustenbosch.bsky.social•100 days ago

yes, i can totally see that--conservative expats love the PRC for the exact same reason as the quoted fascist does, and also because it made them, personally, rich

guiltypanacea.bsky.social•100 days ago

Wasn't it a Trump official who came back from a visit to Saudi Arabia super impressed with how they didn't have to deal with protesters?

jctenton.bsky.social•100 days ago

and the majority of those naturalized citizens were fellow travelers rewarded in the first few years after 1949. nowadays it's basically just athletes they want to grab for their olympics teams

tobbinatorscw.bsky.social•100 days ago

There are about as many naturalised citizens resident in China as *Australia* naturalises in a single month

abeardedpanda.bsky.social•100 days ago

The PRC also does not have any citizenship by descent laws like many countries with large diasporas do so it is literally impossible for the 2nd generation Chinese diaspora to "just go home"

abeardedpanda.bsky.social•100 days ago

The PRC also outwardly embraces this in disgusting and xenophobic ways where their foreign ministers tell the diaspora that "you will never be westerners" but we can also never become Chinese in their eyes

ausir.bsky.social•100 days ago

They want you to strive only to be their fifth column

davemwilburn.bsky.social•100 days ago

This is especially crazy given their catastrophically bad demographics issues, including massive gender gaps and near-certain population collapse.

flxible.bsky.social•100 days ago

Yup, denial is a hell of a drug but death before they let workers from SEA immigrate there, I guess.

bigsteven.bsky.social•100 days ago

Watching the zoomers give smooth brain after smooth brain take on the PRC is wild…

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