by 'inaction & spite' you mean not voting for Kamala, or not enforcing America laws which would have enforced stopping munitions which were used for Israels hatred of Palestinians & genocide - ThreadSky

coalisdead.bsky.social • 33 days ago

by 'inaction & spite' you mean not voting for
Kamala, or not enforcing America laws which would have enforced stopping munitions which were used for Israels hatred of Palestinians & genocide

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pope509.bsky.social•33 days ago

Both, it's not like either of those bore any fruit in the end. But again I don't think it's worth pretending that another 4 years of a shitty status quo would have been worse than the guys bragging about how much worse they want to make things

coalisdead.bsky.social•33 days ago

I don't find arguments which avoid Democratic policy failure convincing

The Dem's under Joe & Kamala made a mistake of gigantic proportions in facilitating & green lighting the worst genocide this century, ignoring objections within their party & voters

Trumps disgusting but the loss was theirs

erikainmx.bsky.social•30 days ago

You can both push for the party to be more progressive and also not want a dictator to get elected. Every single leftist on here argues the same thing, but they never say what not voting for her has accomplished. Or have an answer for how grassroots efforts are now gonna be more difficult under him.

coalisdead.bsky.social•30 days ago

Ignoring Democratic Party policy failure, & party leadership arrogance won't work. It may for you, but not for others.. I find your argument patronising towards those who couldn't vote for Kamala & naive

The democrats lost because they facilitated genocide & ignored those who didn't like it

erikainmx.bsky.social•30 days ago

And you couldn’t vote for her? Well how are you gonna like it if you, and others who really had no choice in the matter like those that are not 18 yet, can no longer can vote at all?

coalisdead.bsky.social•30 days ago

Why are you getting angry with me. I'm just the fuckin messenger

I'm not American

I linked to a piece which described *the largest reason why 29% Americans who voted for Biden in 2020, didn't vote Democrat in 2024*

The democrats were warned & ignored those warnings.. & yes, now you all have Trump

erikainmx.bsky.social•30 days ago

It’s not ignoring their failure.. it’s saying we have work to do, but we can’t elect a fricking dictator. Two things can be true at the same time, you can both hate their stance on Israel and also not want a dictator in power whose stance on Israel is worse.

pope509.bsky.social•33 days ago

I'm not saying they didn't, they failed their voter base, I just don't think this was the time to decide to not vote because of that, because of that the worst genocide in history is hoping to become even worse and the US is going to ratchet human rights even more

coalisdead.bsky.social•33 days ago

29% of the population who voted for Biden the last time disagree with you.

On this one issue, human rights in the Middle East, Biden's as bad as Trump.

I'm disgusted with both the US democratic party & main stream American media who should have talked about more than antisemitism

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