Exactly. And anytime they bring that up bring this receipt. Anytime they open their mouth for a stupid argument against it bring the receipt. If you constantly show a liar the evidence in front of them they have no leg to stand on and they know it
I printed this Memorandum out and left it in a common area in my office. Some in my office think Ukraine also agreed to never join NATO. No idea where people get that from.
My maga parents this weekend said Ukraine owes us all that money back. I patiently explained NATO and then went on to talk about how others came to our aid on 9/11. Our government is not a business and cannot be run like one.
Some need a “come to Jesus” moment and they will change their tune. We embrace them by reminding them that they were lied to. Kindness matters. The cult members we leave to the cult and there will be consequences in the end. 😳 Just my thoughts. ❤️
"have to" is a strong term...more like "want to." one dictator scum doing another one a favor. its not like NK can afford to feed its army, or train them, so, why not let russia train them and feed them? win win for old fat pol pot looking dude, and putin gets cannon fodder that isn't russian.
How can any country ever trust America again?
Every 4-8 years we stand a chance of electing some off the wall idiot (as now). They will reneg on the agreements we've made with our citizens and other countries.
We are now a dishonorable pariah in the world.
Budapest Memorandum. Yeah, but don’t expect the MAGA Brain Trust of the USA to even know about, much less why it was signed and by whom.
Complete paraphrase here, but a democracy [a real one] depends on an educated, engaged electorate & a FREE PRESS bound by journalistic standards & values.
Wish people would take some time to read or just Google or Wikipedia some history lessons. Or watch Chernobyl to realize where the Ukranian people get their strength.
Never hear this stuff from the “investigative “media. The journalists (use the word loosely) are supposed to investigate thoroughly when they report. All they do is surf SM & come up with one or two lines of useless information to regurgitate ! Right radical magat owned now to silence left leaning
They gave up nukes for this. A WHOLE lot of them, too. This is why we were helping them like we were. This is what you do for your ally. FOTUS is treating Ukraine like an enemy with demands of rare minerals like some hostage negotiation. Out of his mind, and he doesn't know history at all.
If only they would get an education at all, from something other than Qanonsense updates pooted straight out of Pootin's backside and small town gossip garbage.
"Educate yourselves" is something they aren't qualified to do, unfortunately.
I think is silly to think that #MAGAts have the attention span to get even halfway through that document, plus there aren't enough four letter words in there.
Whilst the Ukrainians gave up their biggest bargaining chip for a hoped for better world.
Maganuts have surrendered the constitution and vast amounts of protection that kept them safe….
That water came from a site with no health control are going to be the first to drink it????
Just another broken promise by the US and the list grows daily.Be interesting to see what steps America will take to rebuild allies trust after this 💩 show.I suggest mass trails followed by swift executions of the main instigators and lengthy custodial sentences at Gitmo for the rest.
A treaty is a contract and when a nation breaks a treaty they are no longer trustworthy. Consequently other nations no longer want to do business with that nation. Breaking treaties is a really stupid thing to do.
1/3. Incorrect. Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances signed @ Conference on Security & Co-operation in Eu (CSCE) Dec 1994. Provided security assurances to Belarus, Kazakhstan & Ukraine for agreeing to Treaty on Non-Proliferation of Nuc Weapons (NPT). Memoranda signed by 4 nuc powers: Ukraine,
2/3. Rus, UK, US. Then Ukraine had world’s 3rd largest nuc stockpile.
Memorandum prohibited Rus, US & UK from threatening/using military force or economic coercion against Ukraine, Belarus & Kazakhstan, "except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance w/the Charter of the UN."
Rus violated it by
3/3. annexing Crimea in 2014, again 2022 attacking Ukraine.
US & UK ignored their responsibilities.
Those saying US has no obligation to Ukraine are ignorant or liars.
Muskrump abandoning Ukraine shows US under Trump unreliable ally. Muskrump & Reps ignoring agreement proves they’re weasel d——.
Maga doesn't give a shit about promises or commitments. They are slimy, immoral, trash. They have no morals, ethics, or integrity and will stab you in the back first chance they get if they believe they can somehow benefit from betraying you.
MAGA is wanting to replace Zelensky with a Putin Puppet
Trump is mad that Zelensky is a real man. A man with principles, integrity and strength of character, things that Trump would have to look up to see what they mean.
We are breaking the promises we made to his country, why should he trust us now
If Ukraine hadn't done this, it would have retained a nuclear deterrent. This is why we promised to protect them. Those promises were made by the countries, not by their leaders, and defaulting on arms control treaties is a very bad idea due to all the ones we need kept.
Simple statement to MAGA: shockingly Trump lied to you. America has given $132B not $350B. We have not even shipped all of it. Europe has given $136B. They can't handle facts.
As a Vet, I'm appalled that yet another fascist con man has come along, this time burning the American Constitution and turning the country I served into the Fourth Reich - in less than 2 goddamned months.
and they would say that Ukraine made a mistake with that decision. Unfortunately, non-proliferation looks more and more self-defeating, in the short term. It's now a lose-lose proposition. Protect your sovereignty in exchange for a far more dangerous world.
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In her thinking. Hmm
Next time, I wouldn't count on it.
Crucially, the US money to Ukraine was always lend-lease, much of the European money (more than double what the US has so far spent) was given.
It just doesn’t grow enough food, so it’s always on the verge of another famine
NK ruler despises having his government print currency for his people’s general welfare
Prison is users to keep the little people from revolting against being starved
Every 4-8 years we stand a chance of electing some off the wall idiot (as now). They will reneg on the agreements we've made with our citizens and other countries.
We are now a dishonorable pariah in the world.
Complete paraphrase here, but a democracy [a real one] depends on an educated, engaged electorate & a FREE PRESS bound by journalistic standards & values.
They have no respect for treaty’s or agreements. The only things they care about is power and profit.
We signed a treaty guaranteeing their territorial integrity
They’re a bunch of ignorant clowns. 🤡
as far as I know.
Because that's what may have to
be done to defend
ourselves from friend and foe.
Put our own nukes
on our own soil.
The nuclear arms race soldiers on.
Trump is very toxic
for world order and
peace.
#SlavaUkraïni 🇺🇦
Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
"Educate yourselves" is something they aren't qualified to do, unfortunately.
UK, US, and Russia promised not to economically coerce (the US is).
The UK is backing Ukraine, and has signed a 100 year pact with them. (First time I've been actually proud of my country since Brexit.)
Just commentin'
Maganuts have surrendered the constitution and vast amounts of protection that kept them safe….
That water came from a site with no health control are going to be the first to drink it????
If they were capable of that, they wouldn't be magas, and we would be in a much better position as a nation right now.
Putin is spent, he is begging for cannon fodder and ammunition from other dictators.
He is weak and wants to keep what he's stolen and to rebuild, just like every invasion he's done, that's NOT peace and the US should NOT provide it!
Just sayin'
ever lasting peace
through genocide ?
Gaza stolen.
Trump is not a consistent player.
Putin has this style
and will take another bite soon
Do we even care anymore about
Russians
North Koreans
China ?
Other then commerce we dont
care anymore with thier way of life
Their Safe
- surrenders all land taken by war criminal Putin
- believes we have shared economic goals w Russia
- cease fire gives Putin time to rearm and attack again
- satisfies trump need for recognition while doing nothing
#resist
War criminal Putin losing the war ..
Memorandum prohibited Rus, US & UK from threatening/using military force or economic coercion against Ukraine, Belarus & Kazakhstan, "except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance w/the Charter of the UN."
Rus violated it by
US & UK ignored their responsibilities.
Those saying US has no obligation to Ukraine are ignorant or liars.
Muskrump abandoning Ukraine shows US under Trump unreliable ally. Muskrump & Reps ignoring agreement proves they’re weasel d——.
https://www.hks.harvard.edu/publications/budapest-memorandum-25-between-past-and-future
Trump is mad that Zelensky is a real man. A man with principles, integrity and strength of character, things that Trump would have to look up to see what they mean.
We are breaking the promises we made to his country, why should he trust us now
Just sayin'...
Baeder-Meinhof at work.
https://bsky.app/profile/memphisbelle1114.bsky.social/post/3lk4sdy5co22a
Promises made;
Promises broken.
As a Vet, I'm appalled that yet another fascist con man has come along, this time burning the American Constitution and turning the country I served into the Fourth Reich - in less than 2 goddamned months.
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Seems unlikely to happen.
GOP voters are morons.
GOP politicians are criminals, traitors, and sadists.