the ABA does not have authority to disbar an attorney. that is governed by each State's disciplinary process. Giulani was disbarred in NY and DC. It is a State license to practice law
Trial Lawyer here. The American Bar Association does not engage in the discipline of lawyers. Each State Bar to which a lawyer is licensed does that under their Rules of Professional Conduct (mostly modeled after the ABA rules).
The AVA should've been disbarring them already. How many of his tv "attorneys" haven't been disbarred for all the bs they've spewed over the last decade?
While they cannot actually act to disbar (state level licensing boards only) they can and should be coming out in strong support for states taking action.
The ABA is a purely ceremonial trade organization which few members of the legal profession actually belong to. It does not license attorneys, and has no power to disbar anyone.
The ABA can't disbar. In most states it's the State bar but each state has their own procedures. In MN it's The Office of Lawyers Professional Responsibility which files a petition to the MN Supreme Ct who appoints a referee, who presents findings to the Court who after procedures makes the decision
The ABA cannot disbar attorneys. Attorneys are licensed by the states where they practice. The ABA has nothing to do with licensing. It's a policy & lobbying org; membership is voluntary.
Because lawyers are licensed and disciplined by state governmental professional licensing boards, usually called something like "the [name of state] State Bar" or, in some states, by the judicial branch. The ABA is just a club.
The state-level agencies that handle the investigations are generally not allowed to discuss whether someone is under investigation or not, until a formal, public complaint is issued or public discipline is agreed to.
1. Yes - I use Google all the time, and did so 22 hours ago, if not more recently. Furthermore, I always use it before making some know-it-all claim such as "That [agency or company or person] should [take some action]" if I am not sure the agency or company has the authority to do so. 1/
It's definitely frustrating to deal with people who assume that they know things they don't or could've found an answer but didn't.
But it's also important to remember that people have lives & only have so much bandwidth to learn how to write a search prompt even as the tech evolves in real time.
ABA is a professional trade organization. It has no authority to disbar any attorney. In general, disbarment has to be instituted through each state's supreme court. Some state bar associations may commence disciplinary proceedings before their state courts.
Each state has its own bar association that is either a public agency or quasi-public agency, which admits lawyers to the bar and handles bar discipline. The ABA is just a trade association for lawyers (really just for big firms).
Trade associations have lawyers, lobbyists and power through unification and the judicial.
“just a trade…” does not apply here. It’s the ABA. Let’s Go.
So, yet again, it boils down to, if states don't want to stop this, we can't. Good to know that combined with a House, Congress, and Supreme Court that is over-run with the people that want to tank the US, we can add the licensing authorities.
I wanted the throw down to happen after Charlottesville. I was mocked, called alarmist and told to stop over reacting just because I didn't "like" cheezit.
Actually as a 50 yo ish NY'r I knew what many mocked me for believing. It allowed me to see clearly the fraud of America. Now here we are.
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The American Bar Association is not one of those.
Furthermore, the ones that are are quite loath to disbar anyone.
Look—even as a non-lawyer—I know why the ABA is irrelevant here *but I’m a huge nerd.*
You could have said some version of “your state bar covers this, not the ABA” with less effort than it took to be an asshole about it.
But it's also important to remember that people have lives & only have so much bandwidth to learn how to write a search prompt even as the tech evolves in real time.
“just a trade…” does not apply here. It’s the ABA. Let’s Go.
Actually as a 50 yo ish NY'r I knew what many mocked me for believing. It allowed me to see clearly the fraud of America. Now here we are.
Now all you ethical ones can try to get the horse back in the barn.