I also love the category of people who care only because we didn’t merch the villain that they personally like best. 👍 there’s a lot of bigger shit in the world to care about right now. grow up.
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Oh my God! this Valentine merch drop only had people in established relationships plus the most popular character/ace representation on a holiday that really needs it!? Say it ain't so say it's not true TwT
Like trying to help with story telling yet someone like me, who you met at SacAnime, has been racially and physically abused for years to show continued hatred towards artists developing for better. I grew up too much and I am against the very evils this world swallowed. Have to improve. 🙂
I wouldn’t mind some more Husk merch. But yeah, ppl shouldn’t give a crap about the official merch about villain couples. If Disney Descendants can’t give us villain couples, then keep it up girl. U r rocking it.
I have been, since Husk is my favorite character and for some reason, even though he’s supposed to be in the main cast he’s got like maybe four official merch items. I’d LOVE to support the creators and crew but it’s going to fan creators now because they just make more of it!
what i hate is that you just know those people are probably looking at this and will twist this reaction to say "hur hur viv is having a meltdown, W fr MEz!"
Am only disappoint that there’s no merch this time around of Mammon, but hey there’s some Satan goodies and the stuff of Emberlynn was a surprise that sent me. It’s adorable too lmao
We plan on doing much more Mammon, and I’m pushing for doing more Adam. I want these things too, but we can only do so much. There’s a lot of characters, it’s a lot to make.
My friend said the lack of Rolando goodies made them wither. He got some of the coolest merch for that ep, probably one of my favorite shirts to wear too, fans I run into at work/the store totally geek out. Characters gotta be rotated because there’s so many, so I totally get it!
I was with you in the first half, it would have been a response I agreed with. The second part..? Sounds like you're giving a middle finger to people who WANT to support the show, even if some are misguided in expressing it.
The show/characters bring comfort to people during bad times.
This is the first fandom I've EVER been in. And its really a shame to see that this is the attitude in response to us being tired of seeing the same thing over and over. Radioapple summer, rinse and repeat.
It's not my first rodeo, sadly. I fell out of love with OW bc they started to only make things for specific characters. Every single drop had either Mercy or Kiriko (my FAVES)
It's the first time since 2016 I'm not spending money on OW. I might give up waiting for HH merch, at least HT has stuff
I remember when the jujitsu kaizen merch had NOTHING for Nanami Kento. Like it was years before we got official merch. People need to be patient. I get wanting official stuff of your fav but harassing creators for it is not cool.
I think it’s fine to want more merch of some characters but after seeing the hate sent toward Emberlyn I am very annoyed 😭 just respectfully ask for more merch of your favorites?? Don’t put others down lol
I know which villain you’re talking about (because he’s my favorite) with all due respect, I don’t see how you didn’t expect that to happen, I was upset as well, but as an adult I remained civil about it.
Some fans of said villain you mentioned use him as escapism because of the “bigger shit of the world”, it’s not a bad thing to find comfort in all of this chaos around us
“Right” or “wrong”, regardless of your stance, this is not a mature way to handle criticism as an artist.
While criticism is not always helpful, constructive, or encouraging, it should not be disregarded, shut down, and/or insulted 100% of the time.
It is how we grow as artists.
Art is the human experience transmuted into something we can see, feel, or even hear! But criticizing that does not mean we are criticizing what they feel… but how they put those feelings into their work because sometimes there are better ways than what you did.. and that’s life
i have a twin (both of us are women) and honestly the sexualization of glitz and glam and women twins in general sucks. i understand it’s hell but this merch glamorizes and sexualizes the characters. fiction does effect reality. i’m not saying you should recall the merch, but do better next time
only thing I care about in regards to your content is that I hope there will one day be merch of satan because he is a dragon and I like dragons. if there is incoming merch of him cool, if there isn't well now you know there are entities that want it. Otherwise have a pleasant life <3
It’s bec villains are usually more complex and therefore more interesting.
Even Disney knows this, they’ve been shilling their villains line of merch for decades already.
I love some characters more than others but if they didn't get merch, I would NOT be jumping on the creator's page to bitch about it. Astounding level of entitlement, my god.
Thank you for doing what you do and creating characters for us to enjoy, merch or not.
I don´t know if other villains got left out in the merch (?) but not seeing Mammon was a bummer for the fans, cause he was literally in the last episode and always in all previous merch sales with at least three products, so this is extremely odd that he just got... erased??🫥
Never had an issue with any Mammon fan tbh and I know from most how they use him as a comfort character to deal with "the bigger shit" in their lives. Can´t speak for all being nice beans, but for the majority I have encountered. They are hurt since they were so hyped to get some joy through merch.
I am talking about queer people in the USA... trans people getting attacked, poc fearing for what´s to come. There is A BUNCH of them in the Mammon fandom. It is BECAUSE they go through that they want distraction. "It is just merch" Yes, but it was their major joy for weeks. :[
Yeee!! I was so excited since last years Mammon merch was amazing! But not seeing him was so sad :c as someone who has him as a comfort character I think i felt more sad when I was called childish for feeling that way than the lack of merch :c
I personally love the merch that you guys put out and I love all the characters I don’t dislike any of them! It’s crazy how people can’t separate the fact that villains are villains and you can still like them lol and not be OK with what they do xD I was seeing all the hate and I’m like what 🤦
Agree with you in all said in the first post. Now about this last second:
I believe there are friendly fans that only complain because there's never or almost never official merch about their fav charas: Adam, Carmilla, Zestial, etc.
Not fair if you put them all together with the aggressive ones 😞
I feel the second post was very uncalled for. Like I get the annoyance of people being mean with the merch but mock at fans that only complains harmlessly to vent out their frustration and put them together with the aggressive ones in the bag,it isn't fair and a good move
The 2nd post is unnecessary
💯.Thank you. I can’t stand people that blindly agree without consideration or thought to WHY there’s so many people that are collectively agreeing on this. It’s the same frustrations. Personally speaking on my own behalf, I’m not harassing or bad talking anyone. Just frustrated. The second part~
Is quite literally a “fuck you” to dedicated fans who put HARD EARNED MONEY into supporting this amazing show. Business wise, the second part is not good. Anyone who dismisses people like this? Kind of contribute to the issue. If done civilly, it’s NOT bad to want/ask merch on unpopular characters.
I will not blindly agree other people because I have my own opinions and HATE hive mindsets in fandoms, and I understand we all aren’t perfect. Most fans are simply voicing their vents/ complaints. But when the same 10 characters get made over and over for 1-2 years? Yeah, people are gonna talk.
Yeah I agree. Like they can't pretend that there aren't members of this fandom who feel disenfranchised because there is barely any merch of their favorite characters.
Meanwhile its just an avalanche of the red tampon guy. They even rolled out a Tailcoat dress for Alastor, but not Vox???
I get this for getting money and stuff. I'm ignorant about the cost of production, bureaucracy, etc. But it would be good to do a poll about the general interest of the fandom and make a tiny production for minor fav characters time to time just to not ignore that part of the fandom all the time 😞
She goes out of her way to bring us two series, she literally sacrifices her sleeping schedule so she can keep working, but she's mean just because she doesn't make merchandise out of a specific character, what a lack of empathy from both of you.
It's impossible to please everybody, and impossible to please some people at all. Telling them to go fuck themselves really is the only logical response. If you don't like what's available, then don't buy anything, duh.
I'm especially sick of people's opinion on anything relating to you honestly its just so out of hand to fit whatever sick fantasy they got. Like its fine if you dont enjoy hellaverse, step the fuck back then!
I can't imagine being mad at someone for something so fucking stupid. Like, y'all, chill. We're all a bunch of nerds who are geeking out about fictional characters. Let's all just relax and gush about our favorite characters without being so volatile towards the folks making this all possible.
I'm just not happy because Crimson hasn't had any merch in like a year and the older ones are gone now ;w; that's the only complaint I have regarding merchwise.... 😔
They were literally making out in the grand finale, which clearly indicates that they got together IN THE SHOW, which makes their relationship canon. Now you’re just being silly 🤣
in aus the shipping/exchange is bonkers anyway so instead i go to cons and pick up fanart.
u literally make me leave the house and have amazing, fun experiences and meet new ppl.
wouldn’t have done that without you viv.
❤️❤️❤️❤️ fuck these ppl
Just learn to love all the characters 💛 Honestly have people even looked at your work? Each character is super unique and does their job in the story so well, I understand having favorites, but it doesn't mean there will never be official merch of whoever you are hoping for. Also Etsy is a thing 💙💛💙
Let's get back to a time where people just show their love & adoration for the things they enjoy, and instead of others getting mad that it isn't their exact same thoughts, people just say "That's awesome!" We need more enthusiasm. I'm not about bash someone for liking Stella, She's a good villain
Last i checked there is not merch of Art in a skimpy kinky outfit, for Valentines day, that says “Lets Fuck”, which connects to represent a partner. Yes, he is a Villain, but last i checked they don’t sexualize him. Just admit it was a wrong move 😭
What point did I miss?? Also, Art and Valentino are different characters? Dressing and being sexy is literally part of Valentino’s character. I don’t care if I’m losing you by pointing out clear flaws in these puritanical arguments that get levied against me and my team.
This is the point I've been trying to make on Twitter/X for months now, too! Valentino was inspired by Rudolph Valentino, who was a Hollywood heartthrob and actor of the 1920s. He was so beloved that, when he died in 1926, his name was immortalized for decades.
Even if the 'Hazbin Hotel' Valentino isn't the same person as Rudolph Valentino - even though the latter also was an escort, gigolo, and sex worker for a stint - the term "Valentino" was a nickname for a sexy man. There are still people named "Edison" after inventor Thomas Edison, who died in 1931.
Yes, you are right, that is a part of his character, but i feel that what a lot of us are trying to explain is that you have been glorifying and placing this character high up for a while now, they are a rapist and extortionist. He absolutely works in the show as an incredible villain- (Writing more
But when you do more outside of that, the whole ark where you show care to SA victims, comes off extremely disingenuous. Many SA victims who are also fans have reached out to you about this. Selling merch of a character who is a rapist, for valentines, to give to a partner, is really wrong.
You're completely leaving out the fact that there are many SA victims who relate to Angel and even like Val as a character. You can't appease everyone in a group, that is still true here. The fact some people feel comforted is good! The ones who aren't don't have to watch the show.
I don’t want you to think i am a hater, because i am not, but with these constant controversy’s surrounding you, many of us fear that Amazon will want to cut ties. Obviously many of us are not that deep in to understand how that works, but it is a genuine fear many of us have. Please try to hear us😥
I don’t think you are a “hater”, but I think I’ve spoken in great length about how/why I disagree with your sentiment. You can go read my other replies if you want! but if you have worries about me or the show, please don’t. I can assure you I’m fine. ❤️
Every week it just gets harder and harder for me to be a fan of your work. You alienate your fans so much, you do some horrible thing and think nobody will say anything. Many of us love your work and characters, we have made friends who also love it. Be better Vivzie,seriously or it will fall apart.
Personally love ur merch n ordered all key chains plus cards...n yeah it takes an extra month for it to come to the UK but tots worth it. U n ur art make this sh***y world better!
Probably, just disappointing to see literal side characters get more merch than big characters like Adam, it's quite annoying too since he gets jack and his fans are hungry for more, hell, Twitter is a warzone Right now.
I mean HB and Hazbin most likely have different expectations and rules for what characters can have merch. HB has far less restrictions I imagine so they can make merch of side characters. Meanwhile Hazbin is under A24/Amazon so they most likely stick to what characters sell more
And I am saying this as someone who would love more Adam merch btw! I get being annoyed but frankly the fan merch is better put together than the Hazbin ones.
Yeah it's quite sad
As I write this or well type I've seen the merch person's post, so yay. Some Adam fan I talk to quite often believes it is a pr move due to push back, either way, more adam!
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But that is no reason for me to be against other things
And sincerely Valentino or Vaggie aren’t popular like Adam or Lute 😭
The show/characters bring comfort to people during bad times.
Its just unfair to everyone else at this point.
It's the first time since 2016 I'm not spending money on OW. I might give up waiting for HH merch, at least HT has stuff
Wish I could say the same for the other.
This is not the response you make to these
How about you grow up instead and think wiser but by now I’ve tweeted this I’m already block
Proving my point
While criticism is not always helpful, constructive, or encouraging, it should not be disregarded, shut down, and/or insulted 100% of the time.
It is how we grow as artists.
Villains are actually cool, it doesn't matter who or what they are. 9 time out of 10 the villain is cooler then the hero
Even Disney knows this, they’ve been shilling their villains line of merch for decades already.
Thank you for doing what you do and creating characters for us to enjoy, merch or not.
Or it could be that his previous merch didn't sell as well as hoped and they needed to make room for other characters in this drop
They had a year to prepare for this merch drop.
No Husker Dust? No Velvette? No Adam? No Niffty? No Lute? No Emily, or Peter, or anybody else.
We feel marginalized. :I
Your merch line is awesome. Screw the haters.
They could chose only admit they're sad they didn't any merch instead of just acting all hypocrite or moral when they're clearly not.
I believe there are friendly fans that only complain because there's never or almost never official merch about their fav charas: Adam, Carmilla, Zestial, etc.
Not fair if you put them all together with the aggressive ones 😞
The 2nd post is unnecessary
Meanwhile its just an avalanche of the red tampon guy. They even rolled out a Tailcoat dress for Alastor, but not Vox???
People are tilted because it is constant Radioapple shipteasing
We didn't even get Huskerdust, again?
No singles for other characters that people like? Emily, Peter, shit, even Niffty would've been solid.
Yeah there's more shit to worry about for sure, but why be mad at the fans???
Angel Dust
Husker
Lute
Emily
Solos if we got Alastor and Lucifer. They had a year to prepare.
Let me know if you're confused at any point so I can clarify further.
Per Viv, and follow me on this.
Neither. Are. Vox. And. Val.
They're not a thing, per her own words. Hope that was really easy for you!
Per Viv's own words Vox/Val are not a thing. You may remain seated.
You may remain seated... outside.
Lol, you really cooked with that "... outside" part. Got me. Absolutely ate. No crumbs. 👏👏👏
Buuuuuuuuut then....
Ignore the whiners. The majority of us appreciate the work and art and love that goes into these collections.
u literally make me leave the house and have amazing, fun experiences and meet new ppl.
wouldn’t have done that without you viv.
❤️❤️❤️❤️ fuck these ppl
Last i checked there is not merch of Art in a skimpy kinky outfit, for Valentines day, that says “Lets Fuck”, which connects to represent a partner. Yes, he is a Villain, but last i checked they don’t sexualize him. Just admit it was a wrong move 😭
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolph_Valentino
As I write this or well type I've seen the merch person's post, so yay. Some Adam fan I talk to quite often believes it is a pr move due to push back, either way, more adam!
Emberlynn getting so much representation seems important for a start.
Plus first dakis!