Would be willing to visit if you can post a video of the AQ measurements in the flue gas stream showing no difference from background levels. Otherwise, you should focus your efforts on electric technologies – the bulk of the manufacturing would be the same and you’d not be selling lethal weapons. - ThreadSky

nbrsvswoodsmoke.bsky.social • 9 days ago

Would be willing to visit if you can post a video of the AQ measurements in the flue gas stream showing no difference from background levels. Otherwise, you should focus your efforts on electric technologies – the bulk of the manufacturing would be the same and you’d not be selling lethal weapons.

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country-air.bsky.social•4 days ago

Nobody should be exposed to any chemicals spewed by inherently toxic wood heater emissions! Wood stove corporations have been exposed for GREENWASHING and outright disinformation! Why should anyone believe a word you publish? They just need to be banned. will put an end to the corporate bullshit

charnwoodstoves.bsky.social•9 days ago

Just come and see us - we will listen to you and you can hear from us. We are trying to make a positive difference in what we do as we are sure you are too. If we choose to believe the best in each other we may just get somewhere.... how about trying?

bettertimes.bsky.social•2 days ago

Classic best method of offence is attack. Suggest the other person in discussion is not trying to understand.

nbrsvswoodsmoke.bsky.social•5 days ago

If your stoves are as "low emission" as you claim you'd have no problem doing this. In fact, you'd jump at the chance to prove us all wrong. But you can't, because you know how outrageously polluting they are.Ignoring questions you don't like isn't the way to get people to "believe the best" of you!

charnwoodstoves.bsky.social•5 days ago

We have nothing hide. But showing you a photo of a cheap AQ monitor with a low reading won't prove anything. Happy to arrange a team/zoom catch-up where we can have a respectful discussion? No pressure, but the offer is there. PM us if interested.

nbrsvswoodsmoke.bsky.social•5 days ago

Would be nice too get a comment on emissions per user, is that wrong too? And why do you think tobacco smoke is less harmful than wood smoke? (4/4)

nbrsvswoodsmoke.bsky.social•5 days ago

How much money has to be spent for you to believe the readings? Aethalometers cost tens of thousands of pounds, do you believe the Imperial measurements? We live in SW London too, likely an area with similar demographics to this study, is that wrong too? (3/4)
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jan/27/worst-london-air-pollution-in-six-years-as-home-fires-burn

nbrsvswoodsmoke.bsky.social•5 days ago

There have been many peer reviewed scientific studies using these low cost monitors. (2/4)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0360132320300123

nbrsvswoodsmoke.bsky.social•5 days ago

The only reason it would be a "low reading" is if you put tape over the sensor! The implication that “cheap” AQ monitors are inaccurate is a futile attempt to debunk the work of clean air campaigners. If they are “wrong” they are as likely to be underestimating. (1/4)

charnwoodstoves.bsky.social•5 days ago

It's not that they are inaccurate - just that (justifiably) you can dismiss a photo of a AQ monitor. True we have equipment that costs 10s thousands - but the point is we are willing to speak with you so we can understand each other better. For some reason campaigners seem unwilling to engage 🤷‍♂️

nbrsvswoodsmoke.bsky.social•5 days ago

What is your opinion on emissions per user for Ecodesign stoves? Which is the important information regarding neighbour’s experiences of toxic fumes exposure. Trying to hide behind national emissions is avoiding the issue. Although NAEI shows up “Ecodesign” for the #greenwashing scandal that it is!

nbrsvswoodsmoke.bsky.social•5 days ago

You are not willing to engage! You turned of all comments on your X posts months ago. We have answered everything you’ve asked, challenged every piece of misinformation. Everything we say has then been warped and turned into blog posts, after which you then ignore our comments about inaccuracies.

chronicchannel.bsky.social•9 days ago

Are you ever going to try looking properly at heat pumps using renewable energy?
Comparing their emissions with the emissions from wood burning.
You NEVER do that.

There's one way you can make a difference. Stop selling stoves that cause health issues.

country-air.bsky.social•8 days ago

No. They will never acknowledge that. Their goal is to make money out of selling stoves. I would also look into anything they claim with scepticism.

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