They’re also allowed to use them. This is the same reason why Palestine and climate protests are treated VERY differently than Christians harassing people at clinics and literal Nazi rallies.
I think it's safe to say that making the solution "more guns" IS quintessentially American but probably not the solution that will result in the best outcomes for folks who aren't into rivers of blood and what not.
Counter coups aren't fought by the army, their fought with murders in the night and colaborators strung up on bridges. Most historical examples people are quoting are after fascist regime has establish its power, by that time it's too late and we'd be looking at 30 potentially 50* years of fascism.
not 100% sure that they have the army. like legally sure but the US military is pretty diverse now and I kind of suspect that not every single one of them is going to follow orders blindly. maybe I'm naïve...
Well I certainly see people on the left calling for that.
I just never actually see it happen.
Which I think in this case is probably a good thing. If the solution to our problem comes down to plucky drag queen militias, then things have gone well past the point of salvage, cool as that idea is
I do love the idea of plucky drag queen militias. unfortunately the liberal fantasy of a world where we don't need to even understand guns has led to a USA where most folks with the expertise and energy to start militias aren't on the left. & not a fun Rubicon to cross even if we had more experts 😭
It will be gentle nudges over time.
It will start with things like using the military to "protect" protests, then it will be used to "protect" citizens by squashing protests.
Little by little, the mentality of the armed forces will be twisted into agreeing to their orders. And then..? Too late.
Except Fascists have been really good at using Xian churches to do what they want, and they've always found lots of people who want to pretend that they're not worshiping themselves and like forcing others to do so.
no - I understood your doubt (for which there is lots of reason). There were an awful lot of Xian slavers, too - I don't think being part of Xianity has a great correlation to lack of support of evil.
Literally the first thing God says in the Bible after speaking the Ten Commandments is a list of rules for slave ownership. Pretty easy to justify slavery, misogyny, ethnic cleansing, etc when that's more or less the whole story of the Old Testament.
Keep in mind that the U.S. military had the world’s most advanced military throughout the wars in the Middle East in the 2000s and 2010s, and they lost those wars baaaaaaaaaaadly to folks who made bombs out of garbage.
There's likely less of a physical fight to be had, honestly. The way this is going, we are more likely to see the US enter an economic depression/collapse. Which would inevitably cast that upon the rest of the world due to the USD. Global economy and all that.
What that means on the backside is Hell for everyone. When an empire like the US starts to die it's going to lash out at everyone, this isn't going to be an isolated fight to US citizens trying to fix this. If you think you're somehow exempt because you're not in the US you're very very wrong.
I do agree that Americans, despite their guns, are going to be waaaaay too cowardly to actually fight this for a long time. But y’all silly if you think those in power are just gonna dip out because they lose a key election.
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I think it's safe to say that making the solution "more guns" IS quintessentially American but probably not the solution that will result in the best outcomes for folks who aren't into rivers of blood and what not.
They don't have the military until armed citizen militias start trying to overthrow the government.
At that point they get the military real fucking fast.
I just never actually see it happen.
Which I think in this case is probably a good thing. If the solution to our problem comes down to plucky drag queen militias, then things have gone well past the point of salvage, cool as that idea is
does he have the military?
It will start with things like using the military to "protect" protests, then it will be used to "protect" citizens by squashing protests.
Little by little, the mentality of the armed forces will be twisted into agreeing to their orders. And then..? Too late.