also when people say "move past this system" I always want to know "to what" and "how" and "what are the worst things that can happen as a result and how will you combat them"
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The ones I've found who've made an attempt to answer those questions inevitably settle either on a utopianist "everyone will be the best versions of humans anyone has ever wildly imagined without capitalism" or, sometimes, allude to a "might makes right" system well outside the rule of any law.
I mean, isn’t the answer democratic socialism most of the time? Which is obviously still involved quite a bit of capitalism, but that seems to be what is usually meant in my experience.
. Democratic socialism is literally what most people want and know will serve them. That’s not what these kill-capitalism posters saying, though.They ain’t thought shit through.
I once got into an argument with an abolish the police guy by using these questions. He decided that in his Utopia, people would live in small groups like villages. And then I asked him what you would do with somebody who consistently broke the rules and refused to leave, and he never answered.
I'm not exactly a "back the blue" guy myself, I think there is plenty to criticize police on, but there are some circles in which the idea that police In some form probably have to exist is an exilable offense.
You can think that the structures of the carceral state and modern police forces are broken and need root and branch reimagining and still believe in the state's monopoly of violence. Ask me how I know!
Break it down and then form it again… if only we had some word for that, one that didn’t immediately make internet leftists explode in rage at liberals
In general, never assume people will be significant better or worse than they are right now, and operate accordingly. If your theoretical politics requires people not to suck, your politics is not going to work.
Wish those people would grapple a little more earnestly with the reality that many of history's most cruelly repressive regimes have been communist ones
oh my answer is simple... socialism or another system synthesized during the struggle to remake a society that is not foundationally dependent on exporting violence and exploitation to fuel a semi-functioning core while enriching an even smaller elite beyond measure.
And what would the struggle look like? What happens after the struggle? Who gets to decide? Which forms of socialism do you think would be most effective?
you clearly understand the how because you see how the current system is maintained as well as the worst outcomes of it and you also know the remediation of it because I'm sure you see the mutual aid efforts that follow in the wake of disaster and devastation like that in LA right now
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