one thing that apparently hasn't yet occurred to these dumb motherfuckers is that companies that build, say, auto plants in the US also *export from those plants* which they can't do if the US is in a trade war with half the world - ThreadSky | a Reddit-style client for Bluesky

eschatonblog.com • 1 day ago

one thing that apparently hasn't yet occurred to these dumb motherfuckers is that companies that build, say, auto plants in the US also *export from those plants* which they can't do if the US is in a trade war with half the world

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usagibrian.bsky.social•1 day ago

The level to which the Do Not Understand How Things Work is breathtaking.
I blame business schools. They're teaching the perfectly spherical, frictionless horse theory of acceleration and expecting it to work in the real world.

antiayn.bsky.social•1 day ago

Any self respecting country shouldn’t take a number like we’re a fucking deli.

ambassadoreast.bsky.social•1 day ago

And they’re not

sausalitocheese.bsky.social•1 day ago

They also think in terms of a very limited number of industries.

e-jensen.bsky.social•1 day ago

They are similarly stupid to the foreign companies established subsidiary production plants in Russia (after Putin made his “peace” agreement with Ukraine/the West years ago)
What happened? Those who didn’t pull out FAST at a major loss, had their properties seized & lost everything!
MAGA today 👺😡

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r5-to-philly.bsky.social•1 day ago

Will they coordinate alphabetically or maybe in order of population

nopassaran.bsky.social•1 day ago

Building a large-scale factory requires:
"economies of scale" i.e access to export markets

jtatlife.bsky.social•1 day ago

The investment to create a big factory is huge and takes a long time to pay back, so you need *stability*. Political, legal, financial. And stable tariffs, for inputs and outputs.
I'm surprised there's still any investment of that kind in the US right now.

edivimo.bsky.social•1 day ago

"Iron Hearts" understanding of economics.

welshrarebit.bsky.social•1 day ago

Trump’s childish fantasy is of a completely self-enclosed economy. Everything made by American workers from American components and sold to American consumers.

carol2144.bsky.social•1 day ago

Subaru is leaving to Japan

cstross.bsky.social•1 day ago

This was such a winning strategy for Brexit! Feel how much winning! (Maybe ask Lord Frost how it worked for him before you try to copy his playbook, though.)

eschatonblog.com•1 day ago

Right why would i build cars in hull instead of cork or whatever

seanbrodrick.bsky.social•1 day ago

A car made out of cork would float your boat.
Oh, maybe you mean the city!

dribrats.bsky.social•1 day ago

In fairness hulls also float

billinportland.bsky.social•1 day ago

Also dumb: the thought that a Trump administration "deadline" is worth as much these days as, say, a Trump casino.

econcat.bsky.social•1 day ago

I swear our Administration acts like that student who says one really dumb thing the first day of class and then spends the rest of the semester on the cell phone with the complete conviction that s/he/they is brilliant.

jag032507.bsky.social•1 day ago

The should refuse to show.

kelpkelpkelp.bsky.social•1 day ago

You don't start giving your boss ornate schedules for future planmaking if you actually have realistic plans right now.

peltast1.bsky.social•1 day ago

The whole point of big robotic factories is that you end up building your product at exactly one place but shipping it worldwide. Someone is mathing right now to determine the places worldwide that involve lowest total cost for world order fulfillment.

brucekirby.bsky.social•1 day ago

That is exactly what the Automotive component of NAFTA does for all 3 countries. Manufacturing is split but supports the entire region. Cars manufactured in Canada mostly go to the US but slightly more cars go the other way. Efficiency and productivity for both.

bradlovett.bsky.social•1 day ago

Big, burly countries will be coming into the oval office, with tears in their eyes, saying “Sir! Sir!”

scanpipedreams.bsky.social•1 day ago

Is Trump using tear gas again?

danielsexton.bsky.social•1 day ago

See also pharma. It will take 5-10 years to build the factories, develop the supply chains, train the staff, get the regulatory approvals and then they still won’t be able to export a gram of API because of reciprocal tariffs (plus a huge price hike induced smuggling problem in the interim).

proptermalone.bsky.social•1 day ago

they also can’t produce as cheaply as they can elsewhere because all their inputs are tariffed

eschatonblog.com•1 day ago

toyota doesn't just produce cars in the US for domestic purchase

blottopreminger.bsky.social•1 day ago

I 100% do not believe Trump knows Toyota and Honda produce huge numbers of cars in the US, his brain froze in 1984 and has lately melted

eschatonblog.com•1 day ago

above my pay grade but I assume "stable low tariff access to world markets" was one of the US's big selling points, which offset other ways it might not have been the ideal place to manufacture things

trruhnke.bsky.social•1 day ago

The GOP always told us the govt shouldn’t be picking winners and losers. But they never said anything about the govt making everyone a loser. Is this one of the loopholes Trump talks about?

ambassadoreast.bsky.social•1 day ago

There is no GOP

nopassaran.bsky.social•1 day ago

This is correct and academically documented.
Important part of FDR's new deal coalition
included large, capital intensive, multinational corporations that required access to international markets.

https://academic.oup.com/book/7485

joshuaerlich.bsky.social•1 day ago

really, it's ... not exactly protectionism when companies have to move jobs overseas

burghpunk.bsky.social•1 day ago

American built Subarus will no longer go to Canada; only Japanese ones will, and hitch seems like a bad deal for the US

jasonscott330.bsky.social•1 day ago

It is impossible to figure out what is worse - the idiocy or the maliciousness. It's as if they've invented a whole new category. Malidiocy. (?)

naveman.bsky.social•1 day ago

You’re asking for these people (Trump and his supporters) to think beyond the first degree of any answer to any problem. While thy certainly may be capable of doing that doesn’t mean they ever will be willing.

sudhof.me•1 day ago

"reciprocal" I think that word doesn't mean what they think it means. Why is the press still repeating their phrasing.

iplayguitarbad.bsky.social•1 day ago

Amazing that literally every person Trump has empowered is a fucking moron. I mean, carnage aside, batting 1.000 on *anything* is an accomplishment. Very few people are the world leader in anything, as Trump is in hiring the worst people.

maiziedan.bsky.social•8 hours ago

What are they negotiating- trump told the times he already made 200 deals