Hamas wouldn't fucking exist if the terrorist state of Israel would fuck off. For crying out loud, Israeli apologists are just as responsible for every second Palestine suffers as the IDF is. Defensive force my fucking ass.
It's like the US invading Canada with national guard. Get fucked.
I don't understand how you consider that Palestine must be freed from Hamas and not from Israel.
Why Israel must be freed from Netanyahu and not Russia be freed from Putin? You put Israel as a victim of a man to justify genocide and in other hand all the war responsability to a whole country?
Netanyahu can be removed by voting. Putin and Hamas cannot. trump can as well. Thus Israel and America need to be freed from individuals in temporary control and Gaza and Russia need to remove governments that hold permanent control.
Though I guess in 2028 we'll see if that's still true for the USA
All Israelis that backed the Genocide shall be free from their freedom and jailed. Preferably in an open air prison where their movements are restricted in the same way they imposed on the Palestinians whose land they've stolen.
most rational individuals would join hamas if they were born in gaza. you cant brutalize millions of ppl for decades without expecting them to take up arms against their oppressors. Palestine must be freed from its occupiers not the ppl fighting for it’s emancipation
If you’re the leader of a country, a lot of the blame is going on you. And be careful how far you go with the definition of problem before simple propagandized citizens become part of it. May be barking up the wrong tree here, but war isn’t nearly as black and white as the internet says.
This fallacy is committed when one shared trait between two subjects is assumed to show equivalence, especially in order of magnitude, when equivalence is not necessarily the logical result.
And Netanyahu needs to go to the Hague. Israel hasn't been a free country since one of Netanyahu's goons killed Yitzhak Rabin in 1995. Israel has been an unrepentant fascist apartheid terrorist state ever since.
Sorry, but there has always been a left wing pushback against the Zionist excesses of Israel among the Yishuv. That died with Rabin, because that is when it was clear that Israel would rather kill its foundational heroes rather than accept reconciliation with the Palestinian people.
I think putting Ukraine in this crowd is misleading. Gaza is at least partly in favour of Hamas. Trump and Natanyahu are democratically elected. Ukraine did not choose to be a neighbour with Russia.
Hamas is literally that nation's military service. Everyone talks them up like they are terrorists going around the Middle East killing innocents. That is Isreal.
I am not saying 'democratically' as proof of righteousness. You cannot free US from Trump because he did not come from abroad and he is a front to lot of issues of that country.
We could argue that zionism came to middle east from outside though.
This is not what I think and I do not understand how did you interpreted my words this way.
Coming back to initial post: I think "freeing Palestine from Hamas" is what Isreal is doing - it is called genocide and I am against it, as strongly, as you are against reading.
Bibi is about to do what has been suspected he would do all along. He knew Biden wanted safety and balance.
Now you can see why they weren't a fan of Obama. He wouldn't give a free run of the area to Bibi. Will SA now be the check on him? Or share the spoils?
Start with the bottom and the rest can happen- options
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So how quickly do you wanna get this done?
I am become hamas. Hamas is literally just Palestines military. Hamas is NOT a terrorist organization unlike what Isreal and America have both done to the people of Palestine. As far as I'm concerned America and Isreal are the terrorists. It is their land and they will keep it. Never forget.
Isreal did most the killing that day.. don't forget that. It allowed them the genocide we are seeing today. Get the fuck outta here you blood thirsty heathens.
That's absolutely not true and you know it. Hamas attacked a music festival and killed innocent families in cold blood. Gazans now suffer the consequences. If they actually they would free the hostages and FO. They don't though, they just hate Israelis. Truly genocidal maniacs
It is true. The entire world knows it. Everyone is looking at isreal as the terrorists. Sorry to break it to ya but you support the bad guys actually. its a lot to take in realizing Isreal killed its own on that day... shame. But! You are welcome as a fellow comrade 🫡✊️ let's get radicalized!
Releasing the hostages does not ensure that Hamas won't do the same thing again. Unfortunately, the people of Gaza have to pay the price for Hamas' stupidity and hatred
Thinking back to the days when Saddam Hussein paid to have scud missiles fired into Israel and the Israeli children were in shelters wearing gas masks,EVERY SINGLE DAYThinking about the tunnels, the handing out candy when Israeli's were murdered by way of Arafat's intifada. Sbarro, bus stops, uni's.
Stop confusing neoliberalism for freedom. Israel was orchestrating a genocide before netanyahu, gaza is oppressed by the IDF not “hamas” ffs. While we’re at it, Americans weren’t free before trump either.
Its time to fucking wake up, guys. There’s no going back.
Do yourself a favor and do some research into the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin. Everything in both Israel and Palestine is literally Netanyahu’s fault, including Hamas. Both Hamas and the IDF are oppressive.
I wasn't saying Zionism isn't genocide, it is. Yitzhak Rabin was close to brokering peace with Palestine via a two state solution, until he was murdered by a Zionist and replaced with Benjamin Netanyahu, who then replaced the government of Palestine with Hamas. Hamas are literally a Zionist creation
Historically sure. Today, however, “Hamas” is used to describe every single brown person in palestine, and anyone who stands up for palestine anywhere in the world.
I’m not sure we disagree on any facts. Im just responding directly to the image OP posted, which contains a genocidal dogwhistle.
This ↑ is Zionist propaganda. The main problem is Israel’s apartheid. Hamas isn’t who anyone would pick as freedom fighters, but Palestinians have no sovereignty. And Netanyahu isn’t an exception—racism is systemic in Israel, ingrained through education and conscription
Gaza and Palestine must be freed from Israel; it’s not Hamas bombing hospitals, repeatedly shooting Gazan children in the head, or denying food to the starving.
That was a good read, thanks for sharing that. I would like to point out that from the article, it's clear the clans are very afraid of crossing Hamas.
Let me add to your first statement—Gaza must be freed from both Hamas and the Israeli military.
Gaza isn’t occupied by Hamas; it’s occupied by the IDF. And let’s be clear—there wouldn’t be a Hamas or any militant resistance if there were no Israeli occupation or decades of oppression.
Please don’t be ignorant. Since 1948, over 250,000 Palestinians have been killed—over 52,000 just in the past year, including 16,000 children. Are they terrorists too? Israel labels resistance as terrorism to justify killing, destruction, and occupation. The world stays numb.
Jesus fucking Christ. Yes I took his name in vein. Why even fight? Ukraine/Russia and Pakistan/India. USA and other countries. We don’t want it. Whomever you want to worship is your choice. I will never judge.
Hamas defends Gaza.
Israel has been evil from it's conception.
Ukraine was free from Russia until it agreed to become a platform from which to attack Russia.
Trump is just the logical next step in what America has always been.
Palestinians abroad should be helping form a new government, and in vocal opposition to Hamas. This is an issue of life or death, not right and wrong. Hamas went too far October 7th. Any sane country will not support them killing people and taking hostages to negotiate anything.
Why exactly was October 7th too far? Exactly what else should Hamas have done? Are you also against the various countries like Ireland which tried violently resisting from British colonialism?
By ‘too far’ I mean killing and taking hostages as a way to negotiate.
Any concessions in a negotiation under this scenario are going to condone that methodology.
The governments of the world understand this and are not intervening.
I’m pretty sure we can ALL agree horrible decisions have been made on both sides throughout their history, it’s established.
Instead of rehashing this shit ad infinitum, why not figure out a way to coexist?
Unilateral actions by the Apartheid Israelis, make it
Dramatically More Difficult to do so.
Why are you “both sides-ing” this situation, when Israel is clearly the one in the wrong? They have one of the most well-funded militaries and massive external support.
Palestine is essentially on its own, yet is still more moral than Israel.
Palestinians have offered many deals to try and coexist. Israel refused every time, and actively shut down attempts to make it happen. You can’t coexist with someone who deals in bad faith and wants nothing other than to oppress you.
There is never going to be international support for Hamas. And because of that Netanyahu will continue to find enough support. They need a government that can speak to the world. If they condemn Hamas and October 7, the world will listen. It’s not what is right for Palestinians, it’s survival.
@matsonw.bsky.social what's wrong with you? I don't support Hamas, I showed evidence that Netanyahu and Israel bolstered Hamas to divide Palestinians. Which you falsely blame on Palestinians. https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/article-844701
Look at the facts.
I’m saying that is inconsequential even if completely accurate. Are you suggesting Palestinians oppose Hamas? My news is limited but all I hear is a plea for sympathy not any opposition to Hamas or denouncing October 7. The Palestinian interviews I have seen are on whether October 7 was justified.
Our Criminal President will be impeached when his failure to pay off his enablers goes on too long and they decide he must go. Too bad they are sticking with the plan to rob everyone in the country!
Narcissistic authoritarian felon sociopathic pathological liar tyrant wannabe king is bankrupting our government by dismantling, weakening it and tanking global economy so he can have COMPLETE CONTROL. Fascist oligarchy can't survive when confronted with worker solidarity! Nip them in the bud. NOW!!
That has worked zero times in history. Go ahead and point to a war where endless bombings have lead to lasting peace. I'll wait. Even Japan in WWII was brought to the table by the declaration of war by Russia and now two nukes being dropped on them and Hamas leadership isn't in Gaza.
That's just flat out false. There hasn't been an election held in Gaza since Hamas first took power. The vast majority of the people in Gaza weren't old enough to vote and a high percent of the population weren't even born. To say most of those living there now voted for Hamas once would be a lie.
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It's like the US invading Canada with national guard. Get fucked.
Why Israel must be freed from Netanyahu and not Russia be freed from Putin? You put Israel as a victim of a man to justify genocide and in other hand all the war responsability to a whole country?
Though I guess in 2028 we'll see if that's still true for the USA
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Palestine should be freed of Israeli occupation.
The US Government should be freed of Zionism.
But not only that.
USA=AIPAC
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zionism=nazism
We could argue that zionism came to middle east from outside though.
You are blaming Palestinians for supporting their Resistance to Apartheid & Genocide.
So you can fakaff you 💩
Coming back to initial post: I think "freeing Palestine from Hamas" is what Isreal is doing - it is called genocide and I am against it, as strongly, as you are against reading.
Nothing about Gaza except what I read & quoted unedited.
Context present was: your OP wholly _did_ object to selective points.
Now you can see why they weren't a fan of Obama. He wouldn't give a free run of the area to Bibi. Will SA now be the check on him? Or share the spoils?
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So how quickly do you wanna get this done?
Plus, they’re not exactly innocent when IDF registration is mandatory for Israelis.
the israeli government ORDERED israeli military to kill israeli citizens Oct7th
Hamas would never have existed if they werent under a Brutal Occupation by a Genocidal Apartheid regime
And stop repeating the LIE about 'if they released' .. israel has no intention of stopping Genocide
Its time to fucking wake up, guys. There’s no going back.
To say Gaza must be freed from Hamas is literally a dog whistle for extermination of Arab people.
I’m not sure we disagree on any facts. Im just responding directly to the image OP posted, which contains a genocidal dogwhistle.
How can you blame Hamas and not all the Palestinians, but then blame all of Russia and not just Putin ??
Gaza isn’t occupied by Hamas; it’s occupied by the IDF. And let’s be clear—there wouldn’t be a Hamas or any militant resistance if there were no Israeli occupation or decades of oppression.
Israel has been evil from it's conception.
Ukraine was free from Russia until it agreed to become a platform from which to attack Russia.
Trump is just the logical next step in what America has always been.
This list is for fools.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gaza_(2007)
Any concessions in a negotiation under this scenario are going to condone that methodology.
The governments of the world understand this and are not intervening.
Why are you ignoring that Israel has done far worse, while putting blame on Hamas?
And again, what exactly should Hamas have done?
Instead of rehashing this shit ad infinitum, why not figure out a way to coexist?
Unilateral actions by the Apartheid Israelis, make it
Dramatically More Difficult to do so.
Palestine is essentially on its own, yet is still more moral than Israel.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/report-shin-bet-probe-tied-oct-7-directly-to-pms-policy-of-sending-qatari-money-to-gaza-may-be-another-reason-hes-firing-bar/
I don't know why you blame Palestinians, @matsonw.bsky.social as if they have more power than the Israeli government.
https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/article-844701
Look at the facts.
https://news.sky.com/video/benjamin-netanyahu-allowed-millions-of-dollars-to-go-to-hamas-in-cash-israeli-ambassador-says-13228028
Wow. Where did you learn what matters, from your ass?
you moral judgement defect? --> leave IDF
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