This flags an issue - Big AI right now in the US seems to be asking for a 98% markup to do the same job. This either suggests incompetence or an attempt at institutionalized, hedge-bets, grift.
Wow. Stoking China Fear when the story is really about innovation and research for researches sake. Utterly shameful reporting. Dangerous, even. Who do you serve, NYTimes?
Seeing that I unsubscribed to the NYTimes… no I didn’t read the paywalled article… my comment was directed at the headline that all can read, which I found wildly misleading. I then posted an article all could read backing up my comment.
Leave your condescending comments on Twitter, joocifer
It was all just a bubble. It makes me nostalgic for the internet bubble of the late 1990s and the crash of 2002. But WAIT! There’s a bigger crash coming that will rival the crash of 2008. There is going to be a real estate correction coming soon. There is just no way everyone has $3M to buy a condo.
It's scary when illusion is so fundamental to the market's success that the mere existence of an alternative product which some people might find useful can cause your downfall.
Meanwhile he’s making crooked deals behind the scenes to line his own pockets. FAFO big time now that it will involve his 1% voters money.
Let it tank….they asked for this.
That’s because American companies are to busy working on misinformation and getting a dictator as president so they can become richer. Not really working on anything new to actually be ahead of other countries on technology. They just buy up other countries companies
China beat us to the point. US citizens are seeing how much better Chinese citizens have it than us via RedNote app. Imagine how much faster we would progress if living in America felt worthwhile... or if we felt safe.
He's playing the Trump card. All news is good publicity. Bait the news writers and they will put your name on the TV every day.
The scary part is he may really think this way.
Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy about Trump and friends’ big AI investment announcement last week. How many suckers jumped in on AI-related stocks on that?
There are days that I wake up in disbelief, that we actually jumped out of a perfectly functional airplane, flown by an experience, competent pilot. With just a “concept” of a parachute.
I wonder if our tech companies ever just considered being better. Like, doing something cool and good instead of blowing massive amounts of resources on LLMs. Maybe there'd be more confidence in them then.
I already feel conflicted about using ChatGPT because pretty much every prompt goes into its database...and OpenAI is a US-based firm. A China based AI? No way the Chinese gov't doesn't have its paws all over it.
#chatgpt #ai #deepseek #artificialintelligence
That's not the only reason. Confidence in Trump was my only factor in deciding to completely divest from the stock market last Friday.
People that remember when Trump was president last time, remember the drastic declines and money lost.
US AI is going to tank, because the same people that insist it's the best thing ever also want to take everything left from the bottom 75% of the country that still has a dollar left.
No one here will be able to AFFORD it. We're in for some Great Depression 2.0 between tariffs and eliminating FDIC.
That is the impact of devaluing education & making it so insanely difficult for our children to get a college education. Republicans put us in this bind. They would rather give tax breaks to ungodly rich people and keep us uneducated, unhealthy, poor and desperate. Easier to manipulate us that way.
I have no problem with China disrupting the AI market. The American tech companies should be put on notice and work on making better products. Competition is a good thing!
Ai is the biggest bubble since the Dot Com boom. The majority of the platforms VC has thrown money at based on 12 slides and a 24 year old with a Machine Learning degree are just hype that don’t solve a problem. They have no product market fit. Turns out that was a bad idea.
LOL. All they did is use an existing model (Llama 3.1) and refined its training. Of course it's less expensive when you use something that was already built. China gonna be China.
I’m not sure either but given their political power and views being so different and they silence their people’s opinion and voice I just hope that their global power doesn’t exceed, bc that can be scary if china taken over as global power.
The idea that "anyone is better than the US" contains deep naivete and is often presented in a knee-jerk way by 'my side,' sometimes in the face of direct evidence.
However re Deepseek: Chinese researchers did something great and found an interesting way around Gov censorship while doing it. ++
It’s not that “anyone is better than the US”, it’s that the US with current human rights violations, propaganda, restrictions on government and freedom of speech is becoming like China.
Not just this stupid new China made something cheap venture but Trump's management style is going to wreak havoc on the markets for the next for years - disruption for disruption sake - he never outgrew reform school.
Últimas noticias: Se produjo un descalabro total en la bolsa debido a que, gracias a los chinos, se ha descubierto el timo de las IA que estaban organizando un grupo de "listillos".
You are a forking idiot then. LOL! I am Canadian, I understand the mood but China is an order of magnitude worse than the US. Since when fighting fascism with more fascism is a thing?
Glad I’m not retiring in the next 4 years. Things are going to be getting much worse with lord of the idiots at the helm. But eventually another Democrat will supplant him and the economy will recover, as happens every time a Republican president’s economy fails. Which is every time.
Usually they hand over the economy shortly before it fails and the dems basically curb the worst and bring it back on track and getting all the blame for the failing economy. I have seen that several times, this time they wont make it they have to deal with it themselves!
Good. I have been saying from the very beginning that because AI is software, open source versions would be developed all over the world, completely beyond the ability of would-be gatekeepers to control them. If they also lose money, so much the better.
Breaking news: complacency of massive US tech firms Shepard the rise of foreign competition by selling consumers the exact same product but more expensive every year.
Meanwhile, bunker-dwelling U.S. oligarchs brag about the size of their massive, planet-destroying investments in eliminating jobs from the working class.
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Deepseek was able to create a state-of-art, more accurate, better LLM model in just a $5.5 million data center
Open-AI and Meta say they 'require' billion-dollar data centers - partially funded by the US government - to >
This flags an issue - Big AI right now in the US seems to be asking for a 98% markup to do the same job. This either suggests incompetence or an attempt at institutionalized, hedge-bets, grift.
Perhaps distributed $6 million data centers will be all we need, vs. $500 billion data centers.
https://bsky.app/profile/the-independent.com/post/3lgpuuwnv7c2x
Leave your condescending comments on Twitter, joocifer
Try to imagine NYT (or journalism) not being your direct enemy because you don't like a headline or an article's conclusions.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/27/business/us-stock-market-deepseek-ai-sp500-nvidia.html?unlocked_article_code=1.sU4.1QdH.v7ENkZjCNDn-&smid=url-share
Or
Chinese company AI advances…
You see how framing matters in the context of our current politically charged culture?
Work on your condensation, it’s not working in your favor.
Let it tank….they asked for this.
He owns all of this.
#satire #meme
The scary part is he may really think this way.
#chatgpt #ai #deepseek #artificialintelligence
People that remember when Trump was president last time, remember the drastic declines and money lost.
No one here will be able to AFFORD it. We're in for some Great Depression 2.0 between tariffs and eliminating FDIC.
CHINA AND EU WILL ALLY TO DESTROY YOU, FILTHY FASCISTS
#BoycottUS
#BoycottTesla
#BoycottX
#BoycottMeta
#BoycottSiliconValley
Go #DeepSink go
At the end of his term, we are probably at the level of a poor third world country…😵💫
However re Deepseek: Chinese researchers did something great and found an interesting way around Gov censorship while doing it. ++
Últimas noticias: Se produjo un descalabro total en la bolsa debido a que, gracias a los chinos, se ha descubierto el timo de las IA que estaban organizando un grupo de "listillos".