If anyone in the GOP try to pull away from Cheeto, they get threatening calls from the J6ers, etc. The "Fear" is cultivated by Cheeto's culties. Maybelline does not have that same capability.
Hey, I’m all for attacking every avenue. Even the long shots. Tbh we really don’t know at this point what will eventually break the tide. You make a good point.
Communication is vital. Schiff already started efforts with Raskin for the "Shadow Cabinet."
I know there is the temptation to expect instant gratification and "silver bullet" solutions--but this is reality. Other strategies are being undertaken.
Here's a heads up on the avenue that is most apt to work--whenever the opportunity arises. This gives Congress more leverage. They will need bipartisan cooperation.
Could be a short age - he does not have the stuff for a cult leader and might lose the MAGA base - and that might help some GOP members in Congress rediscover their balls.
Agreed. It’s just frustrating to read we’re talking about or we need to think about.
Constitutionally tariff powers reside with Congress. They’ve traditionally been delegated to the executive branch with oversight and approval from Congress.
Yeah, oh lord. I completely understand. I am hoping the 25th Amendment gives Congress some legislative leverage against the tariffs and even the evil budget of doom.
Yes, lets demand the 25th for the 47th. All the mainstream media who sanewashed Trumps behavior should be forced to hold panels about it. Each and every tweet Trump excretes should be met with the simple demand to invoke the 25th. That should be the standard reaction.
Well, the question is, HAS Congress passed legislation to "provide another body?"
If not, they'd have to do that, and then override the President's veto. And, likely then fight in court that that "other body" is Constitutional, which SCOTUS would then decide.
Strategy requires that folks know what options are available so that they can take advantage of those options whenever the opportunity arises. This is not a search for a "Silver bullet".
It is more likely that Trump is "retired" by a member of his protective detail seeking revenge for a family member's death pursuant to Trump's agenda, or perhaps directly by next season's type-A flu virus now that they've halted vaccine preparations.
Or articles of impeachment.
I'm sure there's enough to give cause right now. And there's going to be more cause given in the next weeks - just amend the article and add more as they come.
#MAGA poor does not care for #MAGA rich.
#MAGA poor has no money to invest.
But always has enough to buy #Trump's bibles and sneakers.
#ImpeachTheMotherFucker #FuckTrump
Maybelline can't wrangle the GOP. He is no cult-leader. If they continue to squabble sans unity--their agenda becomes paralyzed--or at least slowed considerably. That is a win.
That is what the Heritage Foundation want in order to install their long term project, Vance, in the Whitehouse. You will swap a raging madman for a puppet of a calculating, methodical, and fascist cadre in a bloodless coup. Trump is short term dangerous. The HF is a genuine long term danger.
If you look at the HF long game they are about as interested in the GOP as they are in rainbows. Their plan is to dismantle the American democracy and they are on a path to doing so. When they flick Trump the GOP MAGA wing will implode and there will be no coherent opposition within the GOP or Dems.
Fair enough. I don't think that invoking the 25th Amendment at the moment will work out well for America and may actually make things worse. Thus, it is not a great solution.
Realistic best shot we have is to fight the issues for 20 months with law suits and persuading Rs in congress to oppose. Then try for congressional majorities in 2026. If he has us under martial law and suspends elections then we have another problems to solve.
Oh, and don't use Google's AI to try to search for info regarding the US Constitution. It's flawed. Check the actual document. Never 100% trust AI. Never.
Yes. Would JD be better or would he change his stripes ? Would Michael Johnson have the backing of 2025 to run for it? Oh God, which is the better evil?
A masters degree in library sciences. That was and is my focus. I have never had a civics class. But do tell me what you think I should know. Provide me a theory. It's not my job and I can't read your snarky little mind. Thanks.
All well and good but if it involves a body controlled by Congress or Senate or JD Vance it’s not going to happen. Nobody is going to risk betraying him.
Too many people in the US reslly would rather see it destroyed physically than surrender their precious bigotries and ignorance. It's not entirely a self-correcting problem but they seem to be able to reproduce fast enough that attrition can't cull their numbers in a single generation.
Thank you for sending me that information. It’s very interesting & helpful. Plus I was not aware of this strategy. I guess we just have to wait & see what happens. 🙂
We're going to coordinate some communication to Congress to make sure they know what they can do. Cause I'm sure you've seen--some of them--esp. GOP--are clueless about the Constitution...
No worries. We've been doing it for a while. Just a group of volunteers working ad hoc. You are welcome to join in. Just swing by muh feed if you need any resources or action stuff to do. Indivisible has more streamline stuff--but they are also another source of tasks to battle Fascism.
Hmm. Interesting, though given that the Sergeant Scribbles, the Vice President, is ALSO scum, and Speaker Johnson, the third in line, is similarly treasonous, I'm forced to wonder on how far down the line Congress would have to go to find an actual patriotic American in the current succession line.
Maybelline cannot consolidate GOP "consensus" with "fear" like Cheeto. Thus, the squabbles they have in Congress would paralyze much of their efforts to advance their agenda.
Biggest problem with Maybelline is that he would really make the US look like a weak b!tch on the international stage--which may embolden enemies to initiate war.
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Trump, Vance and Johnson appear to all be linchpins.
There are a couple avenues where this can work, but it will still require some hoops.
Like if Cheeto's people rebel and submit a letter or
if Congress passes a law to give another "body" authority to declare the prez unfit.
Options/seeds need to be planted for future discovery
But good to know it could happen after 2026. If we still have a country by then.
Do something. We hear you talking. Stop talking.
Impeach this mo fo before he totals our country
I know there is the temptation to expect instant gratification and "silver bullet" solutions--but this is reality. Other strategies are being undertaken.
The 25th is not the solution.
Impeachment AND removal is.
For his sake, the best avenue is for Congress to assign the power to another body (than the cabinet) via legislation
Constitutionally tariff powers reside with Congress. They’ve traditionally been delegated to the executive branch with oversight and approval from Congress.
If not, they'd have to do that, and then override the President's veto. And, likely then fight in court that that "other body" is Constitutional, which SCOTUS would then decide.
I'm sure there's enough to give cause right now. And there's going to be more cause given in the next weeks - just amend the article and add more as they come.
#MAGA poor has no money to invest.
But always has enough to buy #Trump's bibles and sneakers.
#ImpeachTheMotherFucker #FuckTrump
This week has some critical steps, so we get the calls out and figure ways to convert over some key GOP Congressional votes on our end, etc.
Like for the SAVE Act, call all the women GOP...zillions of times...
"Plant the seeds--let them grow." 25th Amendment Section 4
For example: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-07856-5
WTF is the real story
I meant Vance in case he became president. As long as Trump is POTUS JD hedges his bets.
We need to tip the scales before anything will happen.
get before they realize & internalize the damage!
We are in fire right now!
The GOP have squabbles often--and Cheeto's grip over them falters--often, especially because of the tariffs. This gives them more leverage.
The U. S. needs so many new Constitutional Amendments that would correct for the nightmare timeline that we're in now.
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Just because a success is not likely does not mean the attempt is futile. Bringing this into the public discussion changes things, it weakens Trump.
JD Vance would be a weaker leader with less MAGA base. Johnson, too.