and it will be even worse this time because Cdns and others around the world are finding new, reliable trading partners andare refusing to travel to the US. A double whammy
So for the farmers that voted against Trump? Farmer here and I can actually use the word hate for him. Did not vote Trump and read 2025. We are sliding fast into debt bc the gov controls our markets. I was hated by the Rep when I was a school teacher and now hated by Dem bc we farm.
I do feel for you. You are as caught up in that mess as the rest of the U.S. is thanks to MAGA.
Question. Can't you simply sell to whomever you want? I've always wanted to ask and had no one who could answer. Me, personally, I'm tired of my fruit and veg listing every country BUT the U.S.
AMERICA AMERICA in case you forget: there's an old old saying that goes like this " EVERYTHING TRUMP touches DIE " So just to remind you the economy is dying 🙄
Followed shortly thereafter, his recklessness and chaos led to a market loss of $25Trillion, requiring a $6-7 Trillion bailout in 2020 -- the largest public/tax payer bailout in US history.
I am amazed how "we" the taxpayer end up bailing out the auto industry and banks (2008) and the farmers (2017) yet I don't see anyone bailing out the MILLIONS who lost every shred of retirement thanks to Republicans FORCING 401k's on us in the 80's.
I am so pissed off at that 33%. They have put my children’s future at risk and I just don’t allow people to hurt my kids. So as far as I am concerned the US is dead to me.
The Sec of Agriculture has already implied that they'll bail the farmers out. I'm sure they'll pull out all the stops to try to not lose ground in the '26 elections.
He's not just good with that, that's the plan. We're in the midst of the biggest wealth transfer of our lifetimes with the dollars coming from the bottom and being hoovered up by the wealthiest of the wealthy.
Wharton should take back TheFelon’s diploma and publish his college transcripts. F the NDA! He has hidden behind NDAs his entire life. Why? Because he’s a sicko liar and a sexual abuser/Rapist!
This time since they voted for the orange felon, they can try to get their money from him or sell their farms and ranches to people who know how to do math.
Heard a central Cali farmer interviewed state that he wasn't afraid of the tariffs b/c Trump ensured they were compensated last time, and they ended up more profitable in the end. They're counting on a bailout, so fuck'em.
Trump's last import taxes brought in $27 billion, and they had to give $28 billion to farmers to stop them going bankrupt due to reciprocal tariffs imposed by other countries in response. Corporate-owned farms got most of those handouts. The US lost $1 billon and good customers who went elsewhere.
The $27 billion that paid for the farmer bailout was contributed by the people who had to pay for the more expensive imported food. i.e. you and me. Tariffs are a tax on the US consumer, no-one else.
Also created perfect timing for corporate farms to move in on all the bankrupt farms!
It's not rocket science folks! DJT is creating an opportunity for the oligarchs to buy up what's left of America!
I'm up for a civil war against the oligarchs! How bout YOU!
How many of those farmers voted again for Trump? Probably most of them. They're going to permanently lose imports to countries like Brazil. Their going to lose their farm workers. If they get a bailout, it won't last forever. When they lose their farms, big agribusiness will buy up their land.
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big agribusiness will also be out of business
no parts for shit cause by then canada will have shifted its 60% of your steel elsewhere
and 50% aluminum elsewhere and you got no replacements
then we also will begin moving potash north with the LNG pipeline EU markets and asian ones
"He was a long-limbed farmer, a God-fearing, freedom-loving, law-abiding rugged individualist who held that federal aid to anyone but farmers was creeping socialism.' - Joseph Heller, Catch-22
That was actually a taxpayer funded voting buyback! Those same farmers who were screwed by Trump turned around and voted for him again! Democrats have done more for farmers than Republican ever have. Democrats had better change their platform message. Time to grow up Dems!
He will bail them out , we need farmers, but I think it’s chicken shit. A lot of farmers support him , but that’s the reason, he makes everyone else pay for his mess , but bails out the farmer every time. Then they talk down to the liberals,,, Karma it will catch them & Trump
It's shit like this, right here, is why I have adjusted my W4. There will be as little coming from me as humanly possible.
I don't think the U.S. makes it to tax time next year so I look at it as a $ saved is a $ earned. Let the farmers piss in the wind. I don't care. I'll grow my own food.
We shouldn’t be “giving” them anything. But, damned if we do, damned if we don’t. We stop foreigners from buying up our farm land, but reward the people that voted for this.
What’s messed up is the government has bailed out farmers for years , and some , not all but some totally rely on bailouts, ( they half ass there crops )then they turn into maga monsters and have no humility for all there handouts.
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Taxation without representation and let's start dumping Teslas into San Francisco Bay.
Question. Can't you simply sell to whomever you want? I've always wanted to ask and had no one who could answer. Me, personally, I'm tired of my fruit and veg listing every country BUT the U.S.
Yeah, so there's that too.
I thought, in capitalism, you let the failing die
i am in no mood for bailouts.
The biggest welfare program of the last decade is that giveaway
It's not rocket science folks! DJT is creating an opportunity for the oligarchs to buy up what's left of America!
I'm up for a civil war against the oligarchs! How bout YOU!
big agribusiness will also be out of business
no parts for shit cause by then canada will have shifted its 60% of your steel elsewhere
and 50% aluminum elsewhere and you got no replacements
then we also will begin moving potash north with the LNG pipeline EU markets and asian ones
I don't think the U.S. makes it to tax time next year so I look at it as a $ saved is a $ earned. Let the farmers piss in the wind. I don't care. I'll grow my own food.