The Berlin police is preparing to issue a general decree for areas around WW2 memorials in the city, starting early morning of May 8 at 6am and ending in the evening of May 9 at 10pm. It forbids the usage of following items:
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Yet the Russians in Germany typically don't exercise that. It's funny how they're...less patriotic in places that care for things like rights and freedoms
Absolutely revolting that among the banned symbols, the Soviet flag is one of them. The Red Army liberated Europe and the extermination camps, they shouldn't be seen as in any way linked to Russia's invasion of Ukraine. It's a disgrace.
It's really telling how you think, as well. Nobody is asking you to pledge allegiance to Stalin, it's about giving credit where it's due without falling for ideological BS.
You're just another example that we live in a post-truth world. When facts are inconvenient they can just be disregarded
Nobody is questioning that fact. What's your claim, then? That the Red Army didn't defeat Nazi Germany? That they're not by far responsible for victory against Nazifascism? You are rotten historical revisionists who can't accept history when it hurts your feelings, that's who you are
I'm not a historical revisionist but I am questioning your sanity. If it wasn't for the material help sent from the US, Hitler would've run over the USSR.
Genuinely incomprehensibly intellectually dishonest to lay the responsibility for the defeat of nazifascism first and foremost to anyone but the Soviet Union. If you can't accept it you're just rewriting history
Besides, it's absolute nonsense to claim that the Pact prepared for WW2. WW2 was always the plan for the Nazis. That's why rearmaments efforts had been going on for years already.
Thanks for sending me Wikipedia links, it speaks volumes as to your understanding about the topic. Here's a slightly more serious source: Adam Tooze's wages of destruction goes into detail about how monetary, economic and rearmament policies pushed Nazi Germany on path for war already in the mid 30s
- Russian Flag
- Soviet Flag
- Flag of Imperial Russia
- Belarus Flag
- Chechnya Flag
- Russian military uniforms, their symbols or related organizations
- Saint Georg's Band
- Symbols of the Russian invasion in Ukraine such as the "Z" or "V"
- Portraits of leaders of the above mentioned entities
What about ukrainian flags? In former years they forbade those as well, which led to a case in front of german administrative courts (and strange decisions tbf).
Well, such a ban in GERMANY would be unthinkable even for 4 years ago, so no, it's not about Soviet occupation or anything like that. It's about the current war.
Ultimately, the Germans have the right to ban whatever they want in their country. Though it feeds nicely into Kremlin propaganda... :(
Yeah, they love their Soviet Union and want to recreate it, at least some of them lol.
Idk just go on combat footage and search for Soviet it should pop up. They are visible in some telegram clips too.
In the very beginning was also a helicopter with the sign "To Berlin 'Soviet Flag'" 🙂
The US, UK and France still exist. The Soviet Union doesn't. The only people flying it's flag would be Russians either trying to circumvent a ban of their flag or trying to portrait Russia as the successor of the Soviet Union
Wie sieht es hiermit aus? => Die Nachtwölfe sind wieder unterwegs und planen am 9. Mai in Berlin zu sein. Eine faschistische Vereinigung, die den Angriffskrieg gegen die Ukraine lobt und nun angeblich den Sieg gegen den Faschismus und Frieden und Völkerverständigung feiern will.
Everyone else is completely understandable, but the exclusion of the Soviet Flag is deplorable and everyone celebrating should feel ashamed and read a history book. Why can't you just condemn Russian imperialism without this compulsion with doing historical revisionism?
If the liberation of Europe was an act of imperialism by the Soviet union, then it should also apply to French, British and most importantly American imperialism.
Your stupid cynicism should never obfuscate the monumental act of sacrifice that these countries have done to annihilate nazifascism.
Maybe the big sin of the Soviet Union was committing its crimes on local populations instead of doing the same away from our beautiful white skins. That's the only criteria that matters for you, it'd seem.
Once again, this is a cynicism that you only care to apply to the Soviet Union. You'd never say that about any other country, despite the fact that 2 of the other allies were at the head of genocidal empires and the third built a world order on free market upheld by right wing dictatorships. So what
1. That's just plain untrue, since the Soviet Union worked hard for decades to suppress nationalist sentiments
2. How dare you portray the liberation of Nazi Germany as an act of imperialism?
1. Molotov-Ribbentrop pact rings a bell? The division of Poland? Holodomor? Asharshylyk? Those suppressions?
2. Allies beat the Nazis. Soviet Union was on of them and heavily supported logistically, in weapons and in material by the US and the UK....
...and make no mistake - Germany wasn't liberated but occupied. It was officially divided into occupation zones. France, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark...those were liberated. Eastern Europe faced the change of its occupiers from Nazis to Communists.
Thanks for refreshing my history about basic history facts, I see you scrolled the Wikipedia page of WW2.
"Allies beat the Nazis" overwhelmingly, data at hand, Soviets beat Nazis with the help of other allies.
Reading here in the USA how some European neo-Nazis have been substituting the Battle Flag of the Confederacy, I wonder if it would be worthwhile to ban that as well.
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You're just another example that we live in a post-truth world. When facts are inconvenient they can just be disregarded
The German-Soviet Pact prepared the way for World War II.
- Soviet Flag
- Flag of Imperial Russia
- Belarus Flag
- Chechnya Flag
- Russian military uniforms, their symbols or related organizations
- Saint Georg's Band
- Symbols of the Russian invasion in Ukraine such as the "Z" or "V"
- Portraits of leaders of the above mentioned entities
Ultimately, the Germans have the right to ban whatever they want in their country. Though it feeds nicely into Kremlin propaganda... :(
Therefore it was right to ban them too.
Idk just go on combat footage and search for Soviet it should pop up. They are visible in some telegram clips too.
In the very beginning was also a helicopter with the sign "To Berlin 'Soviet Flag'" 🙂
Yes, it's very controversial in the current situation, and eventually up to the Germans to decide what they are willing to tolerate in their country.
Deus Vult.
Vernichtet die Nachtwelpen...
Unwanted, unneeded, and a security risk to everyone & anyone around them
Your stupid cynicism should never obfuscate the monumental act of sacrifice that these countries have done to annihilate nazifascism.
2. How dare you portray the liberation of Nazi Germany as an act of imperialism?
2. Allies beat the Nazis. Soviet Union was on of them and heavily supported logistically, in weapons and in material by the US and the UK....
"Allies beat the Nazis" overwhelmingly, data at hand, Soviets beat Nazis with the help of other allies.
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