I’m not going to hyper-focus on every action and word of this administration, especially since there are no consequences, but it’s hard to say that the white South African who has been spouting Nazi shit publicly for a while now somehow accidentally did a gesture similar to the Nazi salute twice - ThreadSky

zeets.bsky.social • 39 days ago

I’m not going to hyper-focus on every action and word of this administration, especially since there are no consequences, but it’s hard to say that the white South African who has been spouting Nazi shit publicly for a while now somehow accidentally did a gesture similar to the Nazi salute twice

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jakobpunkt.bsky.social•39 days ago

HE DID IT TWICE??

jen1word.bsky.social•38 days ago

I mean, if we're going to support the ridiculous idea that he didn't realize what he was doing, then we also have to support the idea that he really isn't the genius he claims to be, at all. Cause a genius with lots of public speaking experience who didn't want to look like a Nazi in public wouldn't

k-rad.bsky.social•39 days ago

It didn't look to me like someone trying to do the Nazi salute, but it sure didn't look like someone who was trying to avoid looking like they were doing the Nazi salute.

zeets.bsky.social•39 days ago

Some people go their whole lives never accidentally doing it even once

tomwesterholm.bsky.social•39 days ago

Seems exceedingly obvious that he devised a way to do it on purpose with some level of plausible deniability

zeets.bsky.social•39 days ago

“He’s throwing his heart to the crowd” sounds like the kind of thing you have to invent and an absurd level of grace that you would have to give in order to dismiss the obvious.

When you start turning him into someone he isn’t in order to excuse the action, you have to ask yourself why.

onepointsevensixacr.es•39 days ago

You should see how he cups his farts

zeets.bsky.social•39 days ago

And I guess on some level, the reflex to grant him some other reason / turn it into a mistake is because the action is so brazen that no sensible person of that position, even with the same beliefs, would do something so obvious. But you can also look at everything else he has done so far.

onepointsevensixacr.es•39 days ago

There’s nothing to explain. If someone tries to explain it away, make an excuse, then you just learned about them, too.

Use it for that illumination, I guess.

zeets.bsky.social•39 days ago

I just don’t think the dude who has been openly praising the AfD and spouting great replacement theory and who has modeled his life, politics, and businesses, around that theory is confused about a pretty well-known gesture.

hooverdam.bsky.social•39 days ago

It’s a head-scratcher

itsricheyrich.bsky.social•39 days ago

Time to fully exit his app I think

lilflonase.bsky.social•39 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/lilflonase.bsky.social/post/3lg7bt757ak2t

shampeon.shampeons.com•39 days ago

If you don't actually believe in Nazi shit, and people say that you are a Nazi, you actually have a personal, ethical duty to specifically avoid doing anything possibly interpreted as Nazi shit. But I'm yelling into the void on that one. It's sophism all the way down.

targas-taargas.bsky.social•39 days ago

he did it twice. the action was deliberate.

johnnyfog.bsky.social•39 days ago

accidentally... twice...

he literally turned around so the people behind could see too. there's no mistaking it. it wasn't vague, it wasn't subtle; it was absolutely clear. twice. within seconds

refuse to listen to anyone trying to justify it or wave it away

maxtropolitan.bsky.social•39 days ago

And yet, the New York Times can’t be sure what he meant by it.

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