The idea that it's okay for presidents to lie is fairly new. The current president is so far afield from what was shocking at the time from Eisenhower, Nixon, Johnson...yet today it's a collective shrug. Excellent with @hcrichardson.bsky.social and @jenrubin.bsky.social #PresidentsDay #MustListen - ThreadSky

karenmonroy.bsky.social • 5 days ago

The idea that it's okay for presidents to lie is fairly new. The current president is so far afield from what was shocking at the time from Eisenhower, Nixon, Johnson...yet today it's a collective shrug.
Excellent with @hcrichardson.bsky.social and @jenrubin.bsky.social #PresidentsDay #MustListen

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hevkev.bsky.social•5 days ago

We should be making lying to the public by politicians a crime as we do lying in court. Democracy will fail if Trump-level dishonesty becomes the norm in politics.

karenmonroy.bsky.social•5 days ago

I would prefer no lies. Here is another take on this issue that I think Dems do not understand, which is why they are getting their asses kicked so badly:

hevkev.bsky.social•5 days ago

Thanks. I'll look at it.

sheryllee.bsky.social•5 days ago

Guess Pres Muskrat skipped school the day the taught about Washington and truth telling!

karenmonroy.bsky.social•5 days ago

There is a vignette about that too! Worth the listen.

manhasnoname.bsky.social•5 days ago

A reflection of our decadent generation.

We are living under a modern Commodus (the real one). Decades of prosperity under good leadership left us spoiled.

Now we have a leader who reflects us: intellectually lazy, morally untethered. Looks for simple answers to complex problems.

karenmonroy.bsky.social•5 days ago

It's also some other factors: The R's only have cared about winning. And the dems have not figured out how to answer that win at any cost.

manhasnoname.bsky.social•5 days ago

Brilliant minds👇

https://bsky.app/profile/manhasnoname.bsky.social/post/3lflf6hlnoc2s

antt999.bsky.social•5 days ago

I don’t think everyone is just shrugging their shoulders. We can’t do anything if Trump doesn’t want to follow the law. I can only hope that the US Marshals when called upon remember they pledged allegiance to the constitution.

plutoniary.bsky.social•5 days ago

They’re under executive branch, so, nope

karenmonroy.bsky.social•5 days ago

One point made: in past times we'd be marching in the streets non-stop

listessotempo.bsky.social•5 days ago

Bill Clinton was impeached for lying about a consensual affair

karenmonroy.bsky.social•5 days ago

Ah, the good ’ol days.

pyewmyfingerz.bsky.social•5 days ago

https://youtu.be/e1dPKfxRhk0?feature=shared

rnmries.bsky.social•5 days ago

Sadly, the ones there now do not understand many words. Integrity is very foreign to them.

bettybythebeech.bsky.social•5 days ago

I still can’t reconcile how cult members don’t consider they are being lied to or manipulated by 47. Despite the raging paranoia about all sorts of obscure conspiracies.

karenmonroy.bsky.social•5 days ago

The brain, we are born with, and the brain we develop collide in about 30% of the population. They are cognitively inflexible, simple minded, and do not value introspection, rather value sameness (to them).The struggle is the presupposition that other people think like you think.
They do not 😊

okaynova.bsky.social•5 days ago

It's not just Trump. Congress just openly lies and no one bats an eye. Our society does not hold them accountable so they just keep doing and pushing the boundary further.

karenmonroy.bsky.social•5 days ago

Yes, there is an excellent part of the conversation highlighting that

denvercatlzdy.bsky.social•5 days ago

Tried to find a word that is the opposite of integrity. . There is not one so the word Trumprity could be used.

schatzkin.bsky.social•5 days ago

The GOP devolution is still unfolding. I expect soon they will slither rather than walk.

transbillionaire.bsky.social•5 days ago

The entire Biden administration was one big lie. Biden and his handlers/minions lied about everything.

redsun76.bsky.social•5 days ago

But to his racist base it's a big plus

karenmonroy.bsky.social•5 days ago

The racists don't consider their POV a lie. That's the problem.

readingwarrior.bsky.social•5 days ago

What is unusual is when he tells the truth.

used2balawyer.bsky.social•5 days ago

Presidents have always lied, but the CONVICTED FELON has taken it to new heights.
Every time he opens his pie-hole you can assume it’s another lie.

ravenna321.bsky.social•5 days ago

Yes, how awful that I have to tell my 12 year old son he can no longer look to the President of the United States as an exemplary figure or someone worthy of reverence. Instead, Trump's proven himself to be a petty and vindictive bully who cries when he doesn't get his way.

dcnoyes.bsky.social•5 days ago

This president has no integrity. He just a creepy grifter with only his own self-promoting in mind.

minmomismean.bsky.social•5 days ago

It is impossible to believe anything the convicted felon and musk say...

gopclownshow.bsky.social•5 days ago

Cynicism is one of our common enemies. People think this is just how politicians are, and we screwed no matter who is in power. 😢

karenmonroy.bsky.social•5 days ago

It’s not just politicians, the system has two parts, and it only works when citizens hold the politicians accountable😊.

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