Brilliant interview with @franstimmermans.groenlinkspvda.nl on Leading with @alastaircampbell2.bsky.social and Rory. Worth a listen if you appreciate geopolitical discussions about Europe with an experienced diplomat and politician.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/54ATimqWXDHlrkZWrl0Ldw?si=_YYAZvPZT0-FNiGyvDSimQ

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