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tygolding.bsky.social • 182 days ago

@claireharley.bsky.social @edfinch.bsky.social @edroundtables.bsky.social 👇🏽 - be interested in your thoughts here?

How well do you think this is acknowledged in education leadership practice, leadership development, accountability and inspection practices? #networkedchat

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anotherjules.bsky.social•182 days ago

Leaders do need to be compassionate, but (I'm not sure how to phrase this), there has to be a limit, in some respects, so that your compassion/kindness isn't taken advantage of. You have to do what is right for the individual, but also the organisation. Sometimes those needs are conflicting.

tygolding.bsky.social•182 days ago

Absolutely, what you refer to regarding conflicting drivers is very much in the ‘essence of leadership’ - ultimately, it’s important to define & communicate what we mean by compassionate leadership, and do so in the context of our own organisations.

nancygedge.bsky.social•182 days ago

Boundaries.

I agree - and I think the key to this is everyone understanding their (and your) job role. Leadership/management can be lonely, and being ‘friends’ with people you line manage can be tricky.

tygolding.bsky.social•182 days ago

Interesting point. Without getting too far into the leadership vs management debate, for me, leadership is built upon relationships not friendships. Compassion is a leadership essential but not necessarily a management one. Have you read 5 Dysfunctions of a Team ~ Patrick Lencioni ?

nancygedge.bsky.social•182 days ago

No - sounds interesting. I’ve got this though which I found very useful. I also found Miss Claire Benjamin on Insta who has excellent insights.

tygolding.bsky.social•182 days ago

Not read this. What were your key take-aways? Does it address the leadership - management debate? Notice that it uses both interchangeably on the cover.

nancygedge.bsky.social•182 days ago

I think (maybe?) that leadership *is* management? You have to be able to get people to do what you need them to do, and charismatic personality driven ‘leadership’ will only get you so far.

nancygedge.bsky.social•182 days ago

I also think it depends what you tolerate. You can’t tolerate the things that are inappropriate or wrong in your workplace.

tygolding.bsky.social•182 days ago

Yes. Your choice of the word ‘tolerate’ made me think. Are tolerances influenced by the context of the team & where the org is in terms of development? What are your thoughts? Jim Collins in Good to Great is quite provocative regarding brutal facts / truth and I’ve often gone back to it…

nancygedge.bsky.social•182 days ago

I think it comes down to values - both organisational values and you as a person. For instance, I would not tolerate smoking or swearing in school and certainly not in front of children. I have found that defining swearing is necessary!
Also: breakfast eating when at work. I don’t like that either.

tygolding.bsky.social•182 days ago

Smoking & Swearing. They are biggies. What’s the breakfast thing about? It made me chuckle 🤭

nancygedge.bsky.social•182 days ago

I found this last year when I was thinking about, you know, setting out the stall for the year and I like it a lot. Might actually do it this year

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1IZwTwEpHzo4KHa5Lxgc0fOCkJqpYH59YWBkZI1K3JVo/mobilebasic?pli=1

stevenrd70.bsky.social•182 days ago

Not well enough acknowledged or practised.

tygolding.bsky.social•182 days ago

Do you think we are guilty of going too hastily to expectation, process and product driven behaviours? Are leaders unprepared for the ‘human toil’ that is required of them?

stevenrd70.bsky.social•182 days ago

Definitely. The issues stem from an improvement right now culture. Compassion does have a human toil and toll on leaders the problem with both is that the compassion is not always reciprocal and is often confused with 'being nice to people where our compassion must be about learners first.

tygolding.bsky.social•182 days ago

Absolutely agree on the compassion front! Your ‘improvement right now culture’ is such a tedious hang-up of our system. Whenever I encounter it, I always think it demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of learning and can conflate progress and performance.

stevenrd70.bsky.social•181 days ago

Totally. Deep learning takes time, hard work, effort, compassion, understanding. The Education System isn't geared up for it.

claireharley.bsky.social•182 days ago

In the rhetoric? Plenty.

In reality? School leadership is only as compassionate as the people at the top.

This leads to a vast range of experiences and practices.

edroundtables.bsky.social•177 days ago

Coming to this a little late. I think that an element that can be missing in some leadership styles is being human. If we focus on process, policy and procedure we can forget the people at the heart of the organisation.
That said, it doesn't mean letting people take advantage of you.

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edroundtables.bsky.social•177 days ago

I have noticed as I have started coaching is that there must be an element of assertiveness in leadership, setting of mutual expectations and a follow up if something doesn't happen (for whatever reason).

Worth thinking about what your boundaries are and what you are prepared to tolerate in others.

tygolding.bsky.social•176 days ago

People. Process. Product.

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